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firefox
06-09-2008, 07:29 AM
....From the woman who brought you "Why Mommy (government) Is A Democrat":

URL: http://littledemocrats.net/samples.html

Now there's "Why DADDY" is a Democrat." These are two books I would not want to indoctrinate my own kids, if I were ever to have any...

ECW
06-09-2008, 03:08 PM
Ha, ha, ha. What a riot. Click on the link and then look at the second picture down on the left. What are the Democrats keeping you safe from?


Rampaging elephants, that's what.


MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's a riot.

Truth_and_Power
06-09-2008, 04:02 PM
Wow that is somewhere between sad and scary. People are delusional if they think either party has a good track record with governance.

Osborn F. Enready
06-09-2008, 05:40 PM
This is propaganda at its sickest level......

Catering directly two kids who don't even have clue what politics is yet.

“Who owns the youth owns the future!”
-Adolf Hitler

“We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit”
-Susan Etscovitz, an agent of the Massachusetts Department of Social Services, supervising the case of the Bryant family of Waltham Mass., whose only alleged “offense” is home schooling their children with a home-brewed curriculum (Daily News Tribune, "Bryants story goes national", 2003-Jun-20, by Melissa Beecher)



Its not hard to see where they are taking us......

Deadshot
06-09-2008, 05:44 PM
Well Ozzy, I think you're getting a little to worked up. The books in the OP are pretty mundane compared too this one... http://www.amazon.com/OReilly-Factor-Kids-Survival-Americas/dp/0060544244

Osborn F. Enready
06-09-2008, 05:49 PM
Deadshot, I make my allegation at BOTH PARTIES EQUALLY.

They are both trying to brainwash their kids, your kids, everyones kids, to fluff their future positions of power in a two party monopoly.

Deadshot
06-09-2008, 05:55 PM
Your right. But think about it for a moment. Don't we usually teach our kids to act like we do or do what we think is right?

I teach my kids that homophobia is wrong. That Gay Marriage is fine and dandy. A staunch GOP would teach the polar opposite. Both of us are trying to teach the child what we feel is right.

Politics infiltrates life in many, many ways. I want my children informed and I am teaching them what I feel is right. If politics help me to do that, then I'll use politics. That's hardly indoctrinating them into a Hilter-esque type of programme.

Osborn F. Enready
06-09-2008, 06:06 PM
Deadshot said:
Your right. But think about it for a moment. Don't we usually teach our kids to act like we do or do what we think is right?

I don't have kids, so I can't speak from personal experience. I do know how I will teach my kids if I ever have any though, and it won't be in a public school for the obvious reasons.

Deadshot said:
I teach my kids that homophobia is wrong. That Gay Marriage is fine and dandy. A staunch GOP would teach the polar opposite. Both of us are trying to teach the child what we feel is right.

Your bias is incorrect. Being a staunch GOP has nothing to do with marriage or gays.
Being a staunch bible thumper would probably cause you to teach kids that being gay or having gay thoughts is wrong, and would most likely condemn gay marriage and reward homophobia. I would also bet that most strict muslims would do the same for their kids, since both religions take the same stance on sexual freedom..... against it.


There are many freedoms religion fights, sexual freedom is only one of them.

Deadshot said:
Politics infiltrates life in many, many ways. I want my children informed and I am teaching them what I feel is right. If politics help me to do that, then I'll use politics. That's hardly indoctrinating them into a Hilter-esque type of programme.

Obviously, you and I disagree here then.

Deadshot
06-09-2008, 06:11 PM
I don't have kids, so I can't speak from personal experience. I do know how I will teach my kids if I ever have any though, and it won't be in a public school for the obvious reasons.

Huh?!?!? How'd you go from propoganda books to the public schools?



Your bias is incorrect. Being a staunch GOP has nothing to do with marriage or gays.
Being a staunch bible thumper would probably cause you to teach kids that being gay or having gay thoughts is wrong, and would most likely condemn gay marriage and reward homophobia. I would also bet that most strict muslims would do the same for their kids, since both religions take the same stance on sexual freedom..... against it.

But you prove my point, Ozzy. If you are a Bible thumper then you'll probably be a GOP ergo you will follow the propoganda.


There are many freedoms religion fights, sexual freedom is only one of them.

And the GOP and the Religious Right are usually hooked at the hip, again you prove my point.



Obviously, you and I disagree here then.

Okey Dokey! I'll live.

Osborn F. Enready
06-09-2008, 06:22 PM
Deadshot said:
Huh?!?!? How'd you go from propoganda books to the public schools?

The book is a small sample of the type of propaganda that is pushed in public schools, but that is for a different thread.

Deadshot said:
But you prove my point, Ozzy. If you are a Bible thumper then you'll probably be a GOP ergo you will follow the propoganda.

I don't see it that way. I know many people that are strictly religious and democrats, because they agree with the entitlement mentality that forms the basis of modern democrats.

Deadshot said:
And the GOP and the Religious Right are usually hooked at the hip, again you prove my point.

So now there are no religious democrats, eh? LOL

Deadshot
06-09-2008, 06:34 PM
The book is a small sample of the type of propaganda that is pushed in public schools, but that is for a different thread.

I disagree. This isn't the type of stuff you'll see in schools. In high schools it's much more sophisticated and these things just aren't seen in the lower levels. I worked part time in the Library Services dept. of the KCMO school district, and I can tell you they never had books like that in the elementary level. No school would!


I don't see it that way. I know many people that are strictly religious and democrats, because they agree with the entitlement mentality that forms the basis of modern democrats.

Well I'm going by statistics here. Most on the Religious Right are in the GOP.



So now there are no religious democrats, eh? LOL

No there are many religious Dems, just not the the kind you'll find in the GOP. But you're really stretching the topic here, Oz.

We want our kids to follow in our footsteps, at least most of us do. Many children won't, but we will try and sway them our direction. If a book helps, we'll use it.

PatrickHenry
06-09-2008, 07:00 PM
Democrats make sure we all share our toys, just like Mommy does. :lmao:

Democrats make sure we are always safe, just like Mommy does. :love:

Democrats make sure our children can go to school, just like Mommy does. :madlaugh:

Democrats make sure schools have great teachers. :evil:

Sometimes the earth feels a little sick. Democrats make it feel better again. :peace:

Democrats give police officers and firefighters the tools they need to do their jobs. :clapper:

This crap is the worst excuse for political education I can imagine. I want kids to think about problems, sure. But solving them is not trusting a political party, that is a certainty.

Rage
06-09-2008, 10:28 PM
Sounds like children's books written by al gore.

firefox
06-10-2008, 03:46 AM
Well Ozzy, I think you're getting a little to worked up. The books in the OP are pretty mundane compared too this one... http://www.amazon.com/OReilly-Factor-Kids-Survival-Americas/dp/0060544244

Luckily, O'Reilly's book is so obviously stupid that people don't seem to be buying it, and those that do, feel they got ripped off- if the Amazon buyer comments are any indication at least.

My question with government ed is what % of admins are deluded into thinking the status quo is a good idea, and what % are actually controlling sociopaths? I would assume that the latter proportion is much smaller, but who knows. At the very least, I recommended that a friend of mine who is finishing her cert take private ed jobs as a first priority, and she said she probably would. I tried! ;)

4Reaganomics
06-10-2008, 05:15 AM
I couldn't stop laughing at "make sure schools have good teachers"

Osborn F. Enready
06-10-2008, 03:54 PM
Patrick said:
This crap is the worst excuse for political education I can imagine. I want kids to think about problems, sure. But solving them is not trusting a political party, that is a certainty.

Great summation, and I agree Pat.

Deadshot
06-10-2008, 04:04 PM
Children do learn to solve problems outside of political boundaries. When they do learn about the Political process, though, they learn there are only TWO viable parties.

Osborn F. Enready
06-10-2008, 04:26 PM
Which is a lie upon the biggest of lies Deadshot.

Deadshot
06-10-2008, 04:38 PM
Can you show me a POTUS in the last 100 years that hasn't been an R or D?
Can you show me more then a handful (i.e. more then ten of each house) of Representatives and/or Senators in the last 100 years who have been an R or D?
Can you show me more then a couple (i.e. more then two) Governors who have not been an R or a D in the last 100 years?

Local parties for State Houses and State offices have a chance, but not on the big stage...not yet. Hopefully things will change, but until they do the facts are the facts.

Osborn F. Enready
06-10-2008, 04:56 PM
Deadshot said:
Can you show me a POTUS in the last 100 years that hasn't been an R or D?

No, in fact, for the last 158 years, due to BI-PARTISAN CORRUPTION.

Deadshot said:
Can you show me more then a handful (i.e. more then ten of each house) of Representatives and/or Senators in the last 100 years who have been an R or D?

Again, thank you for clearly demonstrating the stranglehold of bi-partisan corruption, gerrymandering, ballot access law restrictions for third parties, etc.

All the more reason to understand that the OTHER 70 parties in this country are at least EQUALLY VIABLE AND VALID as the ENTIRELY CORRUPT TWO PARTIES THAT CURRENTLY HOLD POWER.

Deadshot said:
Can you show me more then a couple (i.e. more then two) Governors who have not been an R or a D in the last 100 years?


Local parties for State Houses and State offices have a chance, but not on the big stage...not yet. Hopefully things will change, but until they do the facts are the facts.

The fact is that people ACCEPT THE LIES being told to them by big media, and corporate pet parties, namely the Republicans and Democrats, who have rigged and manipulated our lives, our system of government and all of our laws for the last 157 years, directly AWAY from our constitutional founding, our legal system, and our individual rights and sovereignty.

My main argument against your statement Deadshot, is that you make it seem that DUE to their corruption, DUE to their obvious rule and law manipulation, the two major parties are the only viable candidates, and people SHOULD ACCEPT THAT.

I don't accept that, and it does NOT make them the only viable candidates.... it makes them the LEAST viable, yet the most favored, due to their corruption.

Deadshot
06-10-2008, 04:58 PM
But Ozzy the lies are true. Those two parties control our political system. I wish it were not true, but when I'm teaching about politics believe me the Green Party is going to rank right up there with the Whigs.

It is what it is.

Osborn F. Enready
06-10-2008, 05:05 PM
Deadshot said:
But Ozzy the lies are true. Those two parties control our political system. I wish it were not true, but when I'm teaching about politics believe me the Green Party is going to rank right up there with the Whigs.

It is what it is.

I am faulting your terminology, not your point.

Their corruption would make them automaticly NON-viable, but favored due to their unconstitutional laws and bi-partisan IGNORANCE of their role in the system, or willfull resistance to do the jobs they were elected to.

You are saying it as though we should just accept it.
I am saying that is the very reason we should ALL REJECT IT, and stop giving their fraud the complicity and sanction of the people..... or as I say, sheeple.

davo
06-11-2008, 09:03 AM
Is this for real or is it satire?

I remember when I was about 6 there was a kids cartoon on TV called "Captain Planet" that was aimed at brainwashing children with environmentalist propaganda. Even when I was 6 I didn't buy into it, and I used to go for the bad guys even though they'd lose.

Osborn F. Enready
06-11-2008, 08:30 PM
davo said:
Is this for real or is it satire?

Its the unfortunate reality of the satire that has become our bi-partisan, corrupt to the core, system of government, and a testament of the depth of that propaganda in blind-loyalist sheeple supporters.

davo said:
I remember when I was about 6 there was a kids cartoon on TV called "Captain Planet" that was aimed at brainwashing children with environmentalist propaganda. Even when I was 6 I didn't buy into it, and I used to go for the bad guys even though they'd lose.

How old are you Davo?

I am 36 and remember similar things.