PDA

View Full Version : Most immigrants lived in California illegally, study says


Alonzo
06-05-2008, 04:26 PM
More than half of new California immigrants who are permanent legal residents lived in the state illegally before getting green cards, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the Public Policy Institute of California.

The study suggests that the conventional notion of a legal immigrant as a brand-new arrival who has waited in a home country to get a green card is not the norm.

"The idea (is) you sit at home, you wait, you get the green card," said research fellow Laura Hill. "That's certainly an experience for immigrants, but it's not the most common."

Of green card holders living in California, 33 percent are new to the United States, never having entered the country before becoming legal residents here, according to the study. An additional 15 percent previously visited the country at least once without violating immigration rules.

But a majority — 52 percent — had past experience living in the country illegally, usually without the government knowing about it, Hill said.

The numbers were based on a survey of 8,000 people with green cards who shared detailed histories of their migration experiences with researchers as part of The New Immigrant Survey in 2003 and 2004.

Thirty-five percent of the California green card holders had come into the United States at least once before by illegally crossing the border, while 18 percent violated the terms of a legal visit by overstaying a tourist visa or working when they were not supposed to.

"It highlights how overly simplified our understanding of immigrants and immigration can be," said Hill, who said a stark distinction between "illegal" and "legal" immigrants does not acknowledge the frequent correlation between both categories. "We need to be a little more cognizant of the variety and breadth of experience."

Along with California, the study looked at the country as a whole. It found that a somewhat smaller percentage of green card holders — 42 percent — have previously lived in the country illegally. Of those, 20 percent had crossed the border illegally and 22 percent had violated their visa terms.

Those who overstayed their visa before obtaining legal residency were most commonly from Europe and Central Asia, where the numbers were about 30 percent compared with 22 percent overall.

Latin Americans were those most likely to cross the border illegally — 41 percent compared with 20 percent overall. In California, the rate was even higher, with 62 of Latin American and Caribbean legal permanent residents having once crossed the border illegally.

Hill said her study also tried to compare current results against what might happen if the immigration reform measures that were proposed but dropped by the U.S. Congress last year were to come to fruition.

Those measures emphasize a more merit-based immigrant selection process compared with the family-focused immigration system in place since 1965.

The study reports that those immigrants now labeled as brand-new arrivals, who make up about 33 percent of current green card holders in California, would be least likely to be admitted under the proposed system because they are less likely to have relatives to sponsor them and, by definition, cannot obtain the U.S. work experience that would be an important factor in the merit-based system.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_9483452?nclick_check=1

Osborn F. Enready
06-05-2008, 04:32 PM
This is a big no-shitter for many who have been there and seen it with their own eyes.

When I was stationed in San Diego for my Military "A" School training in the early 90's, we used to go south and cruise the back roads watching the illegals migrate north through every unobserved crevice of the landscape, of course, except when they gathered up at the border and just ran across by the hundreds, overwhelming the typical number of guards on duty at the actual crossing.

Our bi-partisan government has been willfully ignoring this problem for decades, and both parties have a vested intrest in keeping illegal workers coming in....democrats need their votes, and republicans want to abuse their labor rights, neither party cares much what Americans think, or their constitutional obligations.

And they wonder where Californias entitlement mentality comes from..... ;)

micfranklin
06-05-2008, 06:51 PM
So what's gonna be done about it?

Osborn F. Enready
06-05-2008, 08:13 PM
NOTHING by any of the major parties candidates.

brien
06-05-2008, 08:29 PM
They're still pouring through the southern border. I talked to a client the other day down along the Texas border and he looks out his window and sees them coming every day.

My daughter works in a restaurant in Providence RI and the dishwasher was deported back to Guatemala and was right back in the kitchen 4 weeks later. Anyone who thinks this problem is even remotely beginning to be solved probably believes in Tinkerbell as well.

lily
06-05-2008, 11:07 PM
NOTHING by any of the major parties candidates.


So what is a 3rd party candidate going to do?

Osborn F. Enready
06-05-2008, 11:25 PM
You would have to ask them Lilly.

I know what Ron Paul would have done.....and that is who I was and AM actively campaigning for.

With the unadulterated exclusion he is getting from the Republican Party, he should be considered a third party candidate...its obvious they disown him.

Perhaps Paul will get on the ticket with Barr.....That would be the only way Barr would get my vote.

Paul was clear on his solution to the border problem.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/border-security-and-immigration-reform/