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Obama claims Democratic nomination
BREAKING NEWS
By Alex Johnson
Reporter
MSNBC
updated 7 minutes ago
Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois claimed the Democratic presidential nomination
Tuesday night, NBC News projected based on its tally of convention
delegates. By doing so, he shattered a barrier more than two centuries old
to become the first black candidate ever nominated by a major political
party for the nation’s highest office.
“Tonight, I can stand before you and say that I will be the Democratic
nominee for president of the United States,” Obama planned to say in a
victory celebration in St. Paul, Minn., at the site of the convention that
will nominate his Republican opponent in the fall, Sen. John McCain of
Arizona.
Obama’s victory came on the final day of the Democratic campaign schedule,
as voters in South Dakota and Montana voted in the final primaries. But it
was the decisions of the last unpledged party officials, known as
superdelegates, who put Obama over the top.
Throughout the day, as Obama edged closer to the number of 2,118 delegates
needed to win the nomination, more and more superdelegates relentlessly
ticked over into his column, leading him to claim victory early in the
evening.
Other notable black candidates have run for president, but it was Obama who
broke through to be embraced by one of the two major parties, 45 years after
Martin Luther King Jr. declared his dream for a colorblind America.
In a speech Tuesday night in New Orleans, McCain welcomed Obama to the
general election campaign as a “formidable” opponent. But he proclaimed that
he was “ready for the challenge and determined to run this race in a way
that does credit to our campaign and to the proud, decent and patriotic
people I ask to lead.”
Obama kills off challenge from Clinton
NBC News projected Obama as the presumptive Democratic nominee at 9 p.m. ET,
as polls closed in South Dakota. It said the primary was too early to call,
but it said Obama would win at least six delegates. Combined with late
superdelegate declarations, it said Obama had gone over the 2,118 delegates
he needed.
Buck Laser
06-04-2008, 02:34 AM
Crap.
Crap? Who did you think would take it? It was clear to me back in February of 2007. Yes, 2007.
preservanation
06-04-2008, 02:38 AM
don't forget the ubiquitous qualifier "Presumptive" before the word "Nominee".
Denver, Denver, Denver....!
Drocket
06-04-2008, 02:40 AM
don't forget the ubiquitous qualifier "Presumptive" before the word "Nominee".
Denver, Denver, Denver....!
As Clinton would say, Obama hasn't even been assassinated yet. 'Cause that's really about the only thing that's going to stop him from getting the nomination.
preservanation
06-04-2008, 02:42 AM
She's going to employ the laundry truck strategy...she hopes one hits him.
apdst
06-04-2008, 03:00 AM
'Cause that's really about the only thing that's going to stop him from getting the nomination.
That, or the DNC will decide to give the nomination to the candidate with the popular vote vice the candidate with the most super delegates.
Oh dear, whatever are you all going to do now that Hillary is out of the race and you can't stick up for her? Now you're actually going to have to discuss McCain's policies.
apdst
06-04-2008, 03:41 AM
Oh dear, whatever are you all going to do now that Hillary is out of the race and you can't stick up for her?
oh my! Seems she didn't bail out tonight like everyone thought she would! :o
Truly a historic occasion.
It would be even better if he had a chance of winning the general election.
That, or the DNC will decide to give the nomination to the candidate with the popular vote vice the candidate with the most super delegates.
He's got the numbers. Why don't tell me you were going to vote for Hillary......or is it that you don't know any of McCains policies to discuss them?
PostmodernProphet
06-04-2008, 04:00 AM
Oh dear, whatever are you all going to do now that Hillary is out of the race and you can't stick up for her?
what?....we can't criticize the VP candidate?
Truly a historic occasion.
It would be even better if he had a chance of winning the general election.
Dgun...........let's put policies aside.....what does it take to win an election? Money.......and he has shown that he can raise it better than anyone that's ever run.
Now let's go for votes........he's gotten more of the youth vote in history. Granted they don't vote that much in general elections.......but if they got enough gumption to register, they may turn out.
what?....we can't criticize the VP candidate?
In yours and Granholms dreams.:lmao:
4Reaganomics
06-04-2008, 04:04 AM
Cue Hamas and Hezbollah
time for them to bring out the balloons and streamers
YAWN...........we've heard that every election, including the house and senate.
NortheastCynic
06-04-2008, 04:10 AM
YAWN...........we've heard that every election...That was my thought when I read this: Now let's go for votes........he's gotten more of the youth vote in history. Granted they don't vote that much in general elections.......but if they got enough gumption to register, they may turn out.
A lot of things can happen between now and November, but I think the Democrats have nominated the only guy running [except Kucinich] who would not beat John McCain.
-NC
Elrathin
06-04-2008, 04:13 AM
A lot of things can happen between now and November, but I think the Democrats have nominated the only guy running [except Kucinich] who would not beat John McCain.
-NC
Let's not forget that John McCain and Obama can still F**k things up for both of them depending on who they pick for VP.
NortheastCynic
06-04-2008, 04:13 AM
Indeed, El. That's certainly one of the things I had on my mind when saying "a lot can happen between now and November'. Either candidate can royally screw their chances of victory up.
-NC
lily, I voted for him. I like the guy. I think he would do a good job if he gets the right people around him once in office.
But once the right wing attack machine kicks in full blast, Obama's numbers will start to drop fast. Granted, I think he has a much better chance than Hillary would of had of winning.
But the Democrats picked a great time to go out on a limb with either of these two candidates. It just shows the ineptness of what I believe is dying party.
Just about any other mainstream candidate this year would have been an easy victory. Obama is risky because he is young. Clinton is risky because she is divisive.
Edwards was by far the best overall candidate. Now the American people will pay the price for the Dem's being out of touch by having to endure 4 more years of the same crap policies that have put us in such a bad position.
Because, regardless of what has happened these last two Bush terms, the American people are NOT going to trust Obama with the presidency over McCain. I hope that I am wrong.
PostmodernProphet
06-04-2008, 11:38 AM
In yours and Granholms dreams.:lmao:
not to mention Hillary's......
micfranklin
06-04-2008, 02:43 PM
Cue Hamas and Hezbollah
time for them to bring out the balloons and streamers
About as witty as the "nana you cant catch me" joke.
lily, I voted for him. I like the guy. I think he would do a good job if he gets the right people around him once in office.
Don't scare me dgun...........that's the same thing I thought when Bush took office.......what harm can he do.......he's got all his dad's old cabinet and their experience and intelligence!
But the Democrats picked a great time to go out on a limb with either of these two candidates. It just shows the ineptness of what I believe is dying party.
I agree, running the first Black and the first woman at the same time was ballsy. One or the other I thought when it happened, but not both together.....but if you stop and think about it, neither might not have had a chance otherwise. It could have gone very different if the early primaries were just a tad bit different. No matter what the outcome, it will be historic and the Democrats did it.
Edwards was by far the best overall candidate. Now the American people will pay the price for the Dem's being out of touch by having to endure 4 more years of the same crap policies that have put us in such a bad position.
Edwards was likable, I'll give you that and Obama wasn't my first choice...Richardson was.....but the more I read, the more I liked him, after my choices were taken away.......and I have to tell you dgun.......it sure feels good to vote for someone, instead of all these years, voting just so the worst one doesn't win.
tecoyah
06-05-2008, 02:05 AM
.......it sure feels good to vote for someone, instead of all these years, voting just so the worst one doesn't win.
...Wait...aren't you voting for McCain?
Nope..........I changed my mind. I would have if Hillary won though....it would be back to voting on the worst of two evils. Don't like McCain but compared to Hillary, I think he could at least be trusted.
David
06-05-2008, 03:44 AM
This. I'll take the neo-con with honor over the neo-con labeling herself a liberal while stabbing the Dems in the back. Anyone else think she's trying to give it to McCain?
It's not over until it's over - why is everyone so eager to claim 'defeat' before it actually occurs?
Hillary has some tactics left. I'm not saying she will get the nomination, but we can't say that she won't.
I hope she does.
Drocket
06-05-2008, 06:30 AM
Clinton certainly does have some potential tactics left. All of them involve causing a massive rift in the Democratic party, virtually guaranteeing that McCain wins the election.
AlanC
06-05-2008, 06:37 AM
Clinton certainly does have some potential tactics left. All of them involve causing a massive rift in the Democratic party, virtually guaranteeing that McCain wins the election.
Hillary stayed in long enough to lock up as many delegates as she could. Now all she needs is for Obama to have a major meltdown or a really large scandal and then wait for the supers to decide he's not viable.
A lot can happen in two months and the Clintons have a knack for destroying political enemies. Could be an interesting summer.
Drocket
06-05-2008, 07:44 AM
Yeah, there's always a chance that Obama will do something massively awful that'll enable Clinton to take it. But there's nothing that Clinton can do herself to make that happen. Much like Huckabee and Romney did with McCain, she needs to suspend her campaign. If something happens, fine, but its not something she can control.
Clinton certainly does have some potential tactics left. All of them involve causing a massive rift in the Democratic party, virtually guaranteeing that McCain wins the election.
I disagree. She has no obligation or need to concede, imo. The Dems will rally around whoever the nominee is and do just fine against McCain.
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