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lily
06-03-2008, 02:36 AM
Open mouth, insert foot. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24939201/)

Cheney apologizes after West Virginia joke
His comment at the National Press Club draws rebuke from Capitol Hill


updated 41 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney threw a verbal insult at West
Virginians on Monday, but quickly apologized.

Talking about his family roots and how he's distantly related to Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, the vice president noted that he had
Cheneys on both sides of his family.

"And we don't even live in West Virginia," Cheney quipped.


"You can say those things when you're not running for re-election."

West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin, a Democrat, quickly asked Cheney to
apologize.

"I truly cannot believe that any vice president of the United States,
regardless of their political affiliation, would make such a derogatory
statement about my state or any state for that matter," he said.

Cheney's comment denounced
On Capitol Hill, Cheney's comment was denounced by both Democrats and
Republicans.

"This is exactly the type of stereotyping that we don't need from our
elected officials," said Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va. "It's
disrespectful, and it's certainly not funny. ... As a proud state, I can say
we are disappointed."

Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., blasted Cheney, saying that for a vice president
to openly display "such contempt and astounding ignorance toward his own
countrymen" was an insult to all Americans.

"Now that he or the administration he represents no longer needs their vote,
Mr. Cheney apparently feels that he is now free to mock and belittle the
people of West Virginia," Byrd said.

"The vice president's offhand comment was not meant to hurt anyone," Cheney
spokeswoman Lea Anne McBride said later Monday. "On reflection, he concluded
that it was an inappropriate attempt at humor that he should not have made.
The vice president apologizes to the people of West Virginia for the
inappropriate remark."

In a question-and-answer session after giving a speech at the National Press
Club, Cheney said also joked that he wouldn't object to a family reunion
with Obama, but said he didn't think the candidate would be up for one — "at
least not before November."

"He'd probably be fearful I might whisper in his ear and change his whole
view of the Middle East," Cheney said.

He said that when his wife, Lynne, was doing research on a book, she
discovered that his grandmother was descended from a man named Richard
Cheney. "So I had Cheneys on both sides of the family," he said.

Alonzo
06-03-2008, 02:40 AM
I think Cheney laughs at all of this. I really doubt he cares that the reaction, and that's apparent when he himself doesn't do the apologizing.

dgun
06-03-2008, 03:23 AM
I really doubt he cares that the reaction

He doesn't care. Never has and never will. He's one arrogant sunofabitch.

West Virginia, byw, is one awesome state.

NortheastCynic
06-03-2008, 03:45 AM
Oh for God's sake lighten the hell up..

I've learned one thing about West Virginians; they have thin skins.

Christ, I'm from Jersey, you know the kind of shit I take everywhere I go, mainly from people who have driven on the Turnpike once?

Get over it, it was funny.

-NC

ECW
06-03-2008, 06:51 AM
I guess Cheney ought to know his family history better than anyone, eh? It didn't sound like a joke to me.

ViolaLee
06-03-2008, 07:21 AM
West Virginia is a red state isn't it?

I hope this turns it purple at least.

dgun
06-03-2008, 11:38 AM
Get over it, it was funny.

Wasn't funny. It was stupid, cliché, and insulting.

Plus any reason to bash the hell out of Cheney is a good reason, IMO.

PostmodernProphet
06-03-2008, 12:10 PM
they deserve some criticism....they have given us Byrd for far longer than anyone should have to put up with him.....

NortheastCynic
06-03-2008, 01:57 PM
Wasn't funny. It was stupid, cliché, and insulting.

Plus any reason to bash the hell out of Cheney is a good reason, IMO.

Cliche, sure.

Insulting?

As I said, there are several other states in the Union who have to put up with more...No sympathy on this end.

-NC

micfranklin
06-03-2008, 02:14 PM
I didn't get the joke at all, and it's not like Cheney will be in power much longer anyway.

NortheastCynic
06-03-2008, 02:23 PM
Cheney is implying that there may have been some cousin on cousin marrying in his family's history. West Virginia has some history of this as well...And still can't take a joke.

Reminds me of this: It's All Relative in West Virginia (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-03-23-tshirts_x.htm)

This was absolutely hillarious...Probably would have bought the shirt too.

-NC

DamnYankee
06-03-2008, 02:26 PM
I can't believe people have sunk so low, they can't laugh at themselves anymore. Reminds me of a bunch of angry, bitter, miserable leftists.

I thought the joke was funny.

Truth_and_Power
06-03-2008, 02:27 PM
I didn't get the joke at all, and it's not like Cheney will be in power much longer anyway.

Me neither.. I don't see how it was insulting OR funny. I think the outrage machine was bored when they latched on to this.

DamnYankee
06-03-2008, 03:34 PM
Me neither.. I don't see how it was insulting OR funny.

My home state is often refer to as; The Land of Fruits and Nuts.

NortheastCynic
06-03-2008, 03:35 PM
Agreed, TAP. I heard Cheney say what he said, smiled, and kept channel surfing.

It wasn't hilarious, it wasn't original but I cannot believe there are so many West Virginians who can't take a joke.

-NC

Alonzo
06-03-2008, 05:30 PM
Gee, I never get offended when people call us massholes.

NortheastCynic
06-03-2008, 06:04 PM
Never been called one, but that's because people know me well enough to know that I'm not from Massachusetts, I only live there [in Western Mass, which bloooooowws]. I always catch the typical and unoriginal Jersey stuff though.

-NC

Buck Laser
06-03-2008, 09:07 PM
West Virginia is a red state isn't it?

I hope this turns it purple at least.
I don't know if it's red or not, but it's the home of Senator Harry Byrd, who's been a favorite target of republicans because of his 60-year-ago affiliation with the Klan.

We who don't hold any kind of public office can get away with saying stuff that no elected person could. I can't think of a single state, ethnic group, religion or college that hasn't been the butt of somebody's joke. But still, Cheney made a mistake and his handlers made him apologize. Somehow, I don't think he'd have done it on his own.

NortheastCynic
06-03-2008, 09:09 PM
Somehow, I don't think he'd have done it on his own.Good. There's nothing to apologize for.

West Virginia is a red state isn't it?

I hope this turns it purple at least.If West Virginia changes its electoral tendency based on an incest joke by an outgoing VP, it deserves every joke and insult hurled at it.

-NC

suedanim
06-03-2008, 11:15 PM
Come on people... Dick Cheney meant no harm, he just implied WVn's are inbred. Its not like he called them bitter or anything. THEN the shit really would have to hit the fan.

..nothing to see here, move along...

NortheastCynic
06-03-2008, 11:18 PM
Wasn't funny. It was stupid, cliché, and insulting.

Plus any reason to bash the hell out of Cheney is a good reason, IMO.
The "and we're not even from West. Va" wasn't the funny part.

This was: "You can say these things when you’re not running for re-election."

-NC