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Alonzo
05-29-2008, 06:58 PM
LAGUNA HILLS, California (CNN) -- Charles Nelson has paid about $30,000 in rent since moving into a spacious four-bedroom home in August. He was stunned when a real estate agent knocked on his door recently and said the home was in foreclosure.

His landlord had not paid the mortgage since he moved in and the bank is now demanding the house back. Nelson will also lose his $7,700 security deposit.

When he confronted the landlord, he says, he was given a terse response: "That's none of your business."

"I said, 'I beg your pardon. It is my business. I mean, is somebody going to knock at the door and throw me out -- throw my family out, or what?' " he said.

Nelson, the owner of PCH Auto Sales, lives in the upper-middle class enclave of Laguna Hills, south of Los Angeles, with his girlfriend and two sons from previous marriages.

More than 100 miles away in the working-class city of Palmdale, Fai Nomaaea -- a 35-year-old mother of eight -- can relate. The single mom was cleaning the yard when a man handed her a notice of foreclosure. Like Nelson, she had been paying her rent on time every month.

She now lives in fear every day.

"I don't know what's going to happen the next day," she said. "I don't know if they're going to come to the door and tell us that we have to move, and I don't have anywhere to go."

For Nomaaea, getting booted from the home presents another hardship: She lives on a fixed income and can afford about $1,200 a month in rent. It also means finding a new school for her children.

Her 10-year-old daughter, Jeaah, said she prays to God every night. "I ask Him, I hope I get new friends and they like me and stuff, and that I like them back," the girl said.

Stories like these are becoming more common, with renters becoming victims of the nation's mortgage meltdown through no fault of their own, experts say.

"We know it's a growing problem," said Rick Sharga, vice president of marketing for RealtyTrac, a company that tracks foreclosures across the country.

"It really is a frightening issue for tenants that have no way of knowing until almost the last minute that a landlord is defaulting on a property."

The number of households to receive foreclosure notices for the first quarter of 2008 was up 112 percent from the same time last year, according to RealtyTrac.

Sharga said that more than 38 percent of properties in foreclosure through the end of April were classified as "not-owner occupied," meaning they were second homes, investment homes or rental property. That's roughly 280,000 of the nation's 720,000 foreclosed properties.

The hardest-hit areas are California, Arizona, Nevada and Florida.

"What you had was dramatically overheated markets where people overextended themselves to buy overvalued properties and they used risky loans to get those properties," Sharga said.

Foreclosure laws are governed state by state, and there is not much renters can do when their landlords get foreclosed on. There is no guarantee of being allowed to stay in the homes or ways to get their security deposits back.

"There is very little in the way of protections for tenants," said Nadine Cohen, an attorney for Greater Boston Legal Services, which represents low-income people in Boston. "Many times, the tenants don't even know their buildings are being foreclosed."

Cohen said some states in the Northeast have begun introducing legislation to protect renters from being evicted. A U.S. congressional bill that would have addressed the issue has been held up in conference committee.

"People who are continuing to pay their rent are really victims of this mortgage foreclosure crisis and need to be protected. They haven't done anything wrong. They've lived up to the tenets of their lease; they paid their rent," said John Taylor, president CEO of National Community Reinvestment Coalition, which works to promote access to basic banking services.

"It simply smacks against all that is fair in our democratic society for people who have no control over bad decisions of other people, but ... they're impacted by this."

Sharga said that in many cases, renters want to buy the properties being foreclosed, but the banks force them out anyway.

"It boggles the mind. ... We're dealing with laws and regulations that really weren't made with this kind of situation in mind," he said.

Nelson knows all about that. He called the bank to offer to buy the home he's renting but was told that he has to move out first and then make a bid. Now, he lives day-to-day, not knowing when he'll have to leave.

"There could be a knock on the door, saying we have 10 days, two weeks. I don't know."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/05/28/renters.booted/index.html

PostmodernProphet
05-29-2008, 07:17 PM
this winter I was running into this situation almost weekly......I will say however that I found the banks to be very cooperative....

if the property is investment property they want the tenants to stay, as it increases the marketability of the property.....

if it is single family, banks are happy to entertain offers to buy from the tenants (which surprises me about the comment to the contrary in the OP.....

as far as not knowing when to leave, the law here in Michigan requires a minimum 30 days notice....and I know of one situation where a tenant occupied the premises, without paying rent, for almost 14 months before the bank took action......

apdst
05-30-2008, 12:24 AM
For that kind of money, I would have been buying a house, not paying rent on a house. That's crazy.

PostmodernProphet
05-30-2008, 05:09 AM
For that kind of money, I would have been buying a house, not paying rent on a house. That's crazy.

/shrugs....our minister took a call to a church in Los Angeles.....hasn't been able to buy a home there yet because his house here hasn't sold yet.....he is renting a three bedroom house for $2500 a month and glad to get it......

Alonzo
05-30-2008, 05:31 AM
For that kind of money, I would have been buying a house, not paying rent on a house. That's crazy.

Apartments around here generally start at 1000-12000, and more if you need to house a family.

apdst
05-30-2008, 06:53 AM
he is renting a three bedroom house for $2500 a month and glad to get it

That's nuts! That's why I would never live in a big city like that.

Apartments around here generally start at 1000-12000, and more if you need to house a family.

Here in Lafayette, you can get a two bedroom apartment with furniture, for 1,000-1,200.

PostmodernProphet
05-30-2008, 01:14 PM
and here in West Michigan you can get a two bedroom bath and a half with a garage for $750.....

Osborn F. Enready
05-30-2008, 04:49 PM
Upper Western Michigan or Middle, or Lower Western Michigan PMP?

I am in upper NorthWest Ohio and we have similar rates here.

Alonzo
05-30-2008, 06:28 PM
Here in Lafayette, you can get a two bedroom apartment with furniture, for 1,000-1,200.

You might be able to get that, a very small 2 bedroom apartment anyway, if you want to go to Lawrence, Lowell and other more dangerous and poorer cities north of Boston. If you want to stay in the more suburban, middle class towns you can't.

apdst
05-30-2008, 08:22 PM
That's why I would never live in Baston.

Alonzo
05-30-2008, 08:32 PM
Well, to be fair, we do get paid more here. Not that it still isn't more expensive even with that factored it, but it's not quite as bad as it sounds.

And if you really need to I guess you could find something working at the minimum wage, which around here is $8. Isn't it 5.85 or something in most other states?

apdst
05-30-2008, 08:40 PM
I rent a two bed, two bath for $810. After Hurricanes Rita and Katrina rent went crazy in this town.

cronic
05-30-2008, 08:44 PM
800 seems like alot to me.. but.. I have also heard of much higher places.

Im used to paying 400 a month where I live.. But I'm buying and have been lucky in the fact that I have never had to rent

Alonzo
05-30-2008, 08:46 PM
$400? Wow, I thought the 800 canadian I paid in Toronto for a one bedroom was a great price. It was one of those 2 apartment houses. But $400? Damn.

cronic
05-30-2008, 08:49 PM
$400? Wow, I thought the 800 canadian I paid in Toronto for a one bedroom was a great price. It was one of those 2 apartment houses. But $400? Damn.

just your typical country ranch - style home.. 3 bedroom.. 1 bath.. 2 car garage.. almost 1 acre of yard all around.

But it was built in 69.. still. its pretty up to date

cronic
05-30-2008, 08:49 PM
plus.. I owe the bank for another 22 years..lol