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Trish
05-24-2008, 04:20 PM
Fingerprint Registry in Housing Bill!!!

Posted by John Berlau (http://cei.org/people/john-berlau)

Fingerprints are considered to be among the most personal of information, and fingerprint databases created and proposed in the name of national security have generated much debate. Recently, “Server in the Sky” (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jan/15/world.ukcrime) — a proposed international database of the fingerprints of suspected criminals and terrorists to be shared among the U.S., U.K. and Canada — has ignited a firestorm of controversy (http://government.zdnet.com/?p=3605). As have cavalier comments by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff that fingerprints aren’t “personal data (http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/04/chertoff_says_f.html).”
Yet earlier this week, a measure creating a federal fingerprint registry totally unrelated to national security passed a U.S. Senate committee almost without notice. The legislation would require thousands of individuals working even tangentially in the mortgage and real estate industries — and not suspected of anything — to send their prints to the feds. The database and fingerprint mandates were tucked into housing and foreclosure assistance bills that on Tuesday passed (http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/20/news/economy/dodd_shelby_deal/index.htm?postversion=2008052012) the Senate Banking Committee by a vote of 19-2.
The measure the committee passed states that “an indvidual may not engage in the business of a loan originator without first … obtaining a unique identifier.” To obtain this “identifier,” an individual is requiredto “furnish” to the newly created Nationwide Mortgage Licensing System and Registry “information concerning the applicant’s identity, including fingerprints for submission” to the FBI and other government agencies.
The fingerprint provisions are contained in a “manager’s amendment (http://banking.senate.gov/public/_files/ManagersAmendmenttoGSEBill.pdf)” that was hammered out by committee Chairman Chris Dodd, D-Conn, and Ranking Member Richard Shelby, R-Ala., on Monday and attached the next day to a broader housing bailout bill that had been scheduled for a comittee vote. That bill, the “Federal Housing Finance Regulatory Reform Act of 2008,” expands the lending authority of the Federal Housing Administration and the government-sponsored enterprises Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to refinance the mortgages of troubled borrowers and banks.
The amendment adopted the fingerprint provisions in a section called the “S.A.F.E. Mortgage Licensing Act.” The fingerprints will be part of what the amendment calls “a comprehensive licensing and supervisory database.”
And the database would cover a broad swath of individuals involved with mortgage lending. The amendment defines “loan originator” as anyone who “takes a residential loan application; and offers or negotiates terms of a residential mortgage loan for compensation or gain.” It states that even real estate brokers would be covered if they receive any compensation from lenders or mortgage brokers. Since many jobs in both real estate and mortgage lending are part-time and seasonal, even some of the most minor players in the mortgage market may have to submit their prints.
Justifications listed in the bill for this database include “increased accountability and tracking of loan originators,” “enhance[d] consumer protection,” and “facilitat[ing] responsible behavior in the subprime mortgage market.”
I conducted a wide Internet search and found fingerprint provisions in some state bills, but I don’t know if any, or how many passed. But in my search, I could find no arguments explaining how, specifically, collecting the fingerprints of loan originators would better serve borrowers getting mortgages. I called the Senate Banking Committee asking this question, but my call has not been returned yet. (I will update OpenMarket readers when and if it is.)
I imagine that, yes, a fingerprint registry might stop an ex-con from handling loans, but I doubt it will make even a dent in the lending problems the bill aims to stop. And I would venture to guess that the vast majority of the problem mortages were handled by employees with no criminal record. Rather, this seem like another thoughtless idea that lets politicians brag that they are “getting tough” about a particular problem.
But this fingerprint database, in addition to the privacy violations, might create a host of new problems of mortgage fraud. Identity theft involving fingerprints is becoming a major concern among data security experts. Security consultant Bruce Schneier has argued (http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/04/german_minister.html) that hackers can steal electronic images of fingerprints directly from the databases they are stored in. And there is virtually nothing in this bill about security procedures that would apply to this database.
It amazes me. We have wrenching debates about privacy and freedom vs. national security when it comes to proposed anti-terrorist programs. But then a smililar scheme is done in response to an economic problem, and it almost escapes without notice. A similar thing has happened with anti-money laundering requirements (http://www.reason.com/news/show/28935.html) that mandate that banks effectively spy on their customers for possible violations of everything from drug laws to the tax code.http://www.openmarket.org/2008/05/23/fingerprint-registry-in-housing-bill/

PatrickHenry
05-24-2008, 08:30 PM
The DNA database is even scarier...

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20080515114449743

Working in the lending industry are you, Trish?

Trish
05-24-2008, 09:00 PM
Nope...I'm working in the research industry. I've already had to pass an extensive background check, though not register my fingerprints. I just found this noteworthy, especially since it was slipped in under the radar.

PatrickHenry
05-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Plenty more where that came from.

I hope all supporters of Uncle Sam get what they wish for...security in place of freedom...

For myself, since I oppose Uncle Sam (at least in his current iteration) I will resist such curtailment of my freedom to the best of my ability.

But realistically, what can we do?

The question becomes: At what point do we take up arms to defend liberty when it is being eroded from under us a bit at a time?

micfranklin
05-25-2008, 02:46 AM
The amendment is all just a bunch of fancy words that mean we get to invade your privacy a bit more for no good reason.

NortheastCynic
05-25-2008, 05:49 AM
The amendment is all just a bunch of fancy words that mean we get to invade your privacy a bit more for no good reason.Nowadays the technical term for that is, 'law'.

-NC

Trish
05-25-2008, 02:05 PM
What I find so interesting about this particular piece of legislation is that 1) it was a bipartison effort all the way, and 2) such a "major" piece of legislation (so described by the Senate) could pass without so much as a blink with such an amendment attached. I am wondering how many Senators actually read the thing!

Muser
05-25-2008, 06:03 PM
I am wondering how many Senators actually read the thing!

I'm guessing the same number that actually read The Patriot Act.

micfranklin
05-25-2008, 09:15 PM
Three at most.

Trish
05-26-2008, 02:49 PM
Three at most.

Since the thing passed with a 19-2 margin, the thought that only 3 read it is scary!

micfranklin
05-26-2008, 04:29 PM
I need to do like Men in Black and have them sand off my fingerprints.

Osborn F. Enready
05-27-2008, 11:33 PM
Soon, the people will have to shrug off this self-damaging, corrupt system.... or suffer from failing to act before force is a necessity for change.

Time and history have played this movie many times before, you'd think sheeple would learn eventually.

They use war crys to call the patriots and naieve from the public, do away with them on the front-lines in foreign lands, while the government runs amok ruining the liberty and justice that brought about those patriotic and symbolic feelings that caused those to serve in the first place. It leaves a progressively growing sheeple population, just like they want it. The courageous and brave die in the never-ending war in foreign lands, policing the world, while the sheep simply turn another cheek and accept more abuse in the name of faith and tolerance.

Its kind of sad too.... how can you measure "tolerance" when there is nothing beyond, or sacred from compromise?

Pookie
05-28-2008, 12:42 PM
This is probably just the beginning. I bet someday fingerprints will be required for everything.
Yaaagghh!
Purrs,
Pookie

Osborn F. Enready
05-28-2008, 06:00 PM
Here is a peek at what they intended for Real ID Pookie....

A nice short summary on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVEPlxwlzCE

Citizens Against Government Waste:
http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=9534

Ziff Davis has a bit to say:
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5697111.html

Homeland Security says:
http://www.dhs.gov/xprevprot/laws/gc_1172767635686.shtm

Wired says:
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2005/05/67471

Verichip says: (YouTube video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-PIyL3ke24

We The People:
http://www.wethepeoplewillnotbechipped.com/phpfusion/news.php

Real ID to replace Social Secuirty cards....?? (which were NEVER meant to be, and started out as being FORBIDDEN to use as identity verification)
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/the-new-real-id-rfid-social-security-card/3349266075




Now is the time to ask your government just WTF they are doing, and why.....

micfranklin
05-29-2008, 01:29 AM
Shame that our tax money is going to solve problems with government paranoia.

firefox
05-29-2008, 06:00 AM
This is probably just the beginning. I bet someday fingerprints will be required for everything.
Yaaagghh!
Purrs,
Pookie

This reminds me of SSNs and how they weren't supposed to be used for ID purposes until Congress passed a piece of banking legislation changing that, I think in the early 80s(?).

Osborn F. Enready
05-29-2008, 04:49 PM
A friend of mine who is renovating his house, which was built in 1928, just found a matchbook while tearing a wall apart in his bathroom. The matchbook is an "advertisement" for Social Security, and it is quite laughable when looking back from now to then, in what the system was intended to be, and what it is now. (or, how they sold it, and how they executed it once given the "ok" to do so)

Here is some of the text from the matchbook.... I will scan it when I get time and post it.....

SOCIAL SECURITY

Tell your friends and family these things about SOCIAL SECURITY:

YOUR social security account means BENEFITS FOR YOUR FAMILY if you DIE!
Where you keep your SOCIAL SECURITY CARD in case of emergency!

BENEFITS for YOUR family.....SOCIAL SECURITY!!

(printed by the "Jersey Match Co."

Social Security has become EVERYTHING the government claimed it would prevent it becoming, when it brought forth the idea. It has become a slush fund for bi-partisan projects, without the knowledge of approval of the people.