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Alonzo
05-05-2008, 07:26 PM
A Sheboygan woman shot her 8-year-old daughter in the leg with a BB gun to win a $1 bet with her boyfriend, authorities said Friday.

Angelique R. Vandeberg, 28, now faces up to three years in prison on a felony count of intentional child abuse issued Friday. Vandeberg's daughter, a city elementary school student, told police her mother and the mother's boyfriend were drinking heavily before the shooting, which occurred April 26 or 27, according to a criminal complaint.

"In my time as a prosecutor I've seen alcohol influence people to do some strange things," said Sheboygan County District Attorney Joe DeCecco. "When people are not in the state of mind to think right, you get strange things happening."

The girl said the shot initially hurt so much she was unable to walk, the complaint said.

Vandeberg, of 2704 S. 17th St., made an initial court appearance Friday and was released on a $5,000 signature bond. The complaint said a county social worker has been involved with the family dating to several months before the shooting, but authorities said confidentiality laws prohibit any comment on the case.

In general, Sheboygan County social workers try to keep families together, even in cases of child abuse, said Therese Janssen, child protective services supervisor.

"If at all possible, we put a safety plan in the home to keep the child (there)," she said, adding that the plan could include supervision by a social worker or in-home therapy. "If that works, that's our best-case scenario."

Vandeberg's attorney, public defender Patricia Adelman, did not return a phone call seeking comment Friday.

DeCecco declined to say if he will pursue charges against the boyfriend, though he said the investigation is ongoing. No additional charges are expected against Vandeberg, DeCecco said.

According to a criminal complaint:

Police began looking into the incident Wednesday after a school counselor reported it to police. The girl was shot three or four days earlier, but a circular bruise with a white-colored point in the middle remained visible on her thigh, the counselor said.

The girl said the shooting occurred in her mother's bedroom, where Vandeberg was with her boyfriend after she had consumed 10 to 12 beers.

The boyfriend bet Vandeberg $1 she wouldn't shoot the child, then handed her the BB pistol. Vandeberg took it and shot the girl. The bullet, which did not break the skin, bounced off her leg and struck her 7-year-old brother, who was not injured.

The boyfriend then grabbed the gun, ran out of the house and drove away. Vandeberg told her daughter not to say anything, advising that the incident was a "family thing" and the mother would go to jail if the girl told.

The child said she soon developed a stomachache and was in too much pain to walk, so she went to sleep.

Vandeberg, in an interview with a police detective, said the girl was lying to get her in trouble. She said the injury occurred three weeks ago when the girl fell while riding her bike and was hit in the leg by the handlebar.

DeCecco said prosecutors believe the girl's account.

"Even if a kid's upset with her parent, why would she make up a story of a BB being shot at her?" he said. "An 8-year-old child, it would appear to me, would not pick up on this particular avenue of vengeance."

http://sheboyganpress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080503/SHE0101/805030443/1973

4Reaganomics
05-05-2008, 08:29 PM
Wow, you can shoot a kid with a BB gun and be released on a measely 5 grand bond to go do it again? People are sick and we need to make sure that other parents know that when you abuse an innnocent child like this there will be strict consequences.

Pookie
05-05-2008, 08:32 PM
Holy crap. What an absolutely stupid woman!
That poor kid. So getting shot is a "family thing" now?
What the hell is wrong with people??
Purrs,
Pookie

cronic
05-05-2008, 08:37 PM
I'd like to play defense lawyer here please, if I may?

It was only a bb gun.. didn't even break the skin..
maybe the brat was getting on moms nerves?

Plus.. c'mon...they were drunk..or atleast drinking..
doesn't that count for some chance of innocence here on mom's part?
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What more could a defense lawyer say?....lol
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This mom doesn't deserve to be a mom.. or at least needs to get some classes on parenting for sure before she try's to be a mom again.

But only after her ass goes to jail for a while

4Reaganomics
05-05-2008, 08:38 PM
no, intoxication isn't a legitimate defense and she did it for a measely dollar, not because the kid was acting up.

don't worry though, the lady will probably say exactly what you said

cronic
05-05-2008, 08:43 PM
don't worry though, the lady will probably say exactly what you said

If she gets a lawyer she probably will at that.. because them people,
( IMO most of them ), are more dishonest them the criminals themselves.

But thats a whole different subject isn't it.
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I do think the guy that made the bet with her.. should be charged also

4Reaganomics
05-05-2008, 08:46 PM
I don't blame lawyers for being deceptive. It comes with the territory of the position. I thought hard about law school, but I'm going to opt for MBA or P.hD Econ instead.

Something tells me that it would be troubling to defend someone you know murdered or killed an innocent person. It must be difficult to sue a company for an absurd amount of money when you believe they did no wrong in the matter.

Personally, I do not think I could do it. A DA's salary just wouldn't do it for me in life either, so I can't imagine law as a profession.

cronic
05-05-2008, 08:54 PM
I don't blame lawyers for being deceptive. It comes with the territory of the position.

Ya.. your right about that


Something tells me that it would be troubling to defend someone you know murdered or killed, or sued a company for an absurd amount of money when you believe they did no wrong in the matter.

I couldn't do it either


Personally, I do not think I could do it. A DA's salary just wouldn't do it for me in life either, so I can't imagine law as a profession.

really?.. I thought they made a lot of money?
Certainly I would hope they make 50,000 a year?.. but more like 100 grand I bet.. maybe thats way off.. maybe they make even more yet..
I know the lawyers I have paid wasn't billing me for chicken feed..lol

micfranklin
05-05-2008, 09:31 PM
Human evolution hard at work.....

Mia
05-05-2008, 09:47 PM
I agree this is awful, but I think much worse abuse goes on undetected everyday. I can tell you I know a lot of people who'd rather be shot by a BB gun one time than what they suffered,,,,,,,,,

What concerns me most is the drunken bet. What if next time it's a real gun? I know someone who shot his dog dead on a drunken bet. I was horrified and never spoke to him again!

Mia
05-05-2008, 09:53 PM
Something tells me that it would be troubling to defend someone you know murdered or killed

Maybe, but the cliche that everyone deserves a defense, that's actually true.

What a DA makes depends on what area he is in. They usually make a decent living, nothing great for sure. Private practice or a fancy firm is where the money is. They want to attract people to the prosecution and the bench who want the job for its rewards and responsibility, not the salary.

PatrickHenry
05-05-2008, 11:48 PM
Get the boyfrined, too.

Then try, convict, beat and release them.

The little girl gets a loving foster home and never returns to her asshole mom.

BoogyMan
05-06-2008, 12:24 AM
I'd like to play defense lawyer here please, if I may?

It was only a bb gun.. didn't even break the skin..
maybe the brat was getting on moms nerves?

Plus.. c'mon...they were drunk..or atleast drinking..
doesn't that count for some chance of innocence here on mom's part?

You have GOT to be kidding, please tell me you are kidding me.

Only a BB gun? And how does their being drunk make them innocent?

preservanation
05-06-2008, 12:32 AM
You have GOT to be kidding, please tell me you are kidding me.

Only a BB gun? And how does their being drunk make them innocent?Maybe self defense.
Those kids can be awful menacing or...
that kid could have been plotting a hostile domestic takeover.

Or....The kid was charging after a ball in the street and the mom saved his life by dropping him at thirty paces.
See, I'm the one who should be the defense lawyer!

~Clarence preservanation Darrow.

cronic
05-06-2008, 12:40 AM
Maybe self defense.
Those kids can be awful menacing or...
that kid could have been plotting a hostile domestic takeover.

Or....The kid was charging after a ball in the street and the mom saved his life by dropping him at thirty paces.
See, I'm the one who should be the defense lawyer!

~Clarence preservanation Darrow.

lol.. ya pres.. u'd be good at it...

and yes Boogyman, I was kidding lol.. read my whole post and you will see this.


This mom doesn't deserve to be a mom.. or at least needs to get some classes on parenting for sure before she try's to be a mom again.

But only after her ass goes to jail for a while

Scribbler1
05-06-2008, 01:17 AM
Or....The kid was charging after a ball in the street and the mom saved his life by dropping him at thirty paces.
See, I'm the one who should be the defense lawyer!

~Clarence preservanation Darrow.Lawyers are supposed to be observant, yes?

Considering the kid was a GIRL, maybe law is not your ideal vocational choice.


(I couldn't resist)

Mia
05-06-2008, 03:12 AM
LOL to all of you! I love the comic relief in this forum ;-)

micfranklin
05-06-2008, 09:07 PM
Wait, is Sheboygan County populated my inbred hicks?

Scribbler1
05-07-2008, 12:05 AM
LOL to all of you! I love the comic relief in this forum ;-)Good comedy is often based in tragedy, and as far as Annie Oakley is concerned and what she did, you kind of HAVE to take it with a grain of sarcastic humor.

The news these days would make you take a rifle to the nearest tall building if you didn't.

Mia
05-07-2008, 12:12 AM
The news these days would make you take a rifle to the nearest tall building if you didn't.



Isn't that the truth - I used to avoid the news completely for this reason. I guess I obtained a tougher skin. I don't know if that's good or bad.