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suedanim
04-25-2008, 09:29 PM
Stop the world I want to get off. :help:

And you already know its been coming to this for over a year. The rhetoric has steadily paved the way, the excuse out of the obedient lapdogs Petraeus and Fallon's mouth. hmmm... those Presidential elections we're all worried about might not happen after all.

I hope people here are ready for the draft to be reinstated.

Joint Chiefs Chairman Says U.S. Preparing Military Options Against Iran (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/04/25/ST2008042502033.html)

By Ann Scott Tyson (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/ann+scott+tyson/)
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 25, 2008; 1:51 PM



The nation's top military officer said today that the Pentagon is planning for "potential military courses of action" against Iran (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/countries/iran.html?nav=el), criticizing what he called the Tehran government's "increasingly lethal and malign influence" in Iraq (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/countries/iraq.html?nav=el).


Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said a conflict with Iran would be "extremely stressing" but not impossible for U.S. forces, pointing specifically to reserve capabilities in the Navy and Air Force.

"It would be a mistake to think that we are out of combat capability," he said at a Pentagon news conference.

Still, Mullen made clear that he prefers a diplomatic solution to the tensions with Iran and does not foresee any imminent military action. "I have no expectations that we're going to get into a conflict with Iran in the immediate future," he said.

Mullen's statements and others by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates recently signal a new rhetorical onslaught by the Bush administration against Iran, amid what officials say is increased Iranian provision of weapons, training and financing to Iraqi groups that are attacking and killing Americans.

In a speech Monday at West Point, Gates said Iran "is hell-bent on acquiring nuclear weapons." He said a war with Iran would be "disastrous on a number of levels. But the military option must be kept on the table given the destabilizing policies of the regime and the risks inherent in a future Iranian nuclear threat."

Army Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, who was nominated this week to head all U.S. forces in the Middle East, is preparing a briefing soon to lay out detailed evidence of increased Iranian involvement in Iraq, Mullen said. The briefing will detail, for example, the discovery in Iraq of weapons that were very recently manufactured in Iran, he said.

"The Iranian government pledged to halt such activities some months ago. It's plainly obvious they have not. Indeed, they seem to have gone the other way," Mullen said.
He said recent unrest in the southern Iraqi city of Basra had highlighted a "level of involvement" by Iran that had not been understood by the U.S. military previously. "It became very, very visible in ways that we hadn't seen before," he said.

But while Mullen and Gates have recently stated that Tehran must know of Iranian actions in Iraq, which they say are led by Iran's Revolutionary Guard, Mullen said he has "no smoking gun which could prove that the highest leadership [of Iran] is involved in this."
In an incident early local time yesterday, a cargo ship contracted by the U.S. military fired "several bursts" of warning shots at two fast boats that approached in international waters off the Iranian coast, defense officials said today.

The unidentified small boats approached the Westward Venture, a ship carrying U.S. military hardware, as it headed north through the central Persian Gulf at about 8 a.m. local time, said Cmdr. Lydia Robertson, spokeswoman for the Navy's Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain.

The U.S. ship initiated bridge-to-bridge communications, and, after receiving no response, it fired a flare. The speed boats continued to approach, so the ship fired warning shots with a .50-caliber machine gun and M16 rifle. The boats then left the area, she said.
"They fired several bursts, it went pretty quickly," Robertson said.

Soon afterwards, an Iranian coast guard boat queried the Western Venture, Robertson said. It was unclear whether that was one of the small boats.

"There have been some Iranian boats that have operated this way, and some unidentified boats," said Robertson, adding that the crew had no voice communication with the small boats.

In January, five Iranian patrol boats sped toward a U.S. warship and dropped small, boxlike objects in the water, an incident that alarmed military officials and that President Bush called "a provocative act." The objects turned out to pose no threat to the USS Port Royal or two other U.S. vessels accompanying it.

Wndrtch
04-25-2008, 09:59 PM
Well given that the Iranian Government has been helping murderers kill US soldiers and Iraqi civilians, it's about time we start to view them as hostel, and begin to take action.

PatrickHenry
04-25-2008, 10:48 PM
Murderers?

Hmm...

Depends on the definition of murder...

Some would say invading and occupying a nation not threatening you is murder...mass murder...

Trish
04-25-2008, 11:03 PM
The Pentagon has contingency plans for just about every possibility. I read once (will have to see if I can find the source) that there's even a contingency plan for a war with Canada. Every time something changes in the world, those contingency plans change. It's not just Iran - it's everywhere. It doesn't mean that some military action is imminent - it just means that plans are made just in case they are needed. Given Iran's policies, I think it would be extremely irresponsible if there weren't any plans in place to confront whatever comes down the pike from Iran.

BoogyMan
04-25-2008, 11:10 PM
The Pentagon has contingency plans for just about every possibility. I read once (will have to see if I can find the source) that there's even a contingency plan for a war with Canada. Every time something changes in the world, those contingency plans change. It's not just Iran - it's everywhere. It doesn't mean that some military action is imminent - it just means that plans are made just in case they are needed. Given Iran's policies, I think it would be extremely irresponsible if there weren't any plans in place to confront whatever comes down the pike from Iran.

Exactly Trish, I bet we have plans to deal with having to militarily deal with just about every nation on the planet. I also would imagine that just about every other nation does as well. It would be foolish not to have some kind of prepared course of action in case an horrific reality.

PatrickHenry
04-25-2008, 11:10 PM
How often does the Chairman of the JCoS talk about warring with Canada, Trish?

Easy90
04-25-2008, 11:13 PM
The Pentagon has contingency plans for just about every possibility. I read once (will have to see if I can find the source) that there's even a contingency plan for a war with Canada. Every time something changes in the world, those contingency plans change. It's not just Iran - it's everywhere. It doesn't mean that some military action is imminent - it just means that plans are made just in case they are needed. Given Iran's policies, I think it would be extremely irresponsible if there weren't any plans in place to confront whatever comes down the pike from Iran.

Exactly! We have whole wing of the DOD that does nothing but draw up contingency plans for various circumstances.

Easy90
04-25-2008, 11:15 PM
How often does the Chairman of the JCoS talk about warring with Canada, Trish?

How often does the Prime Minister of Canada announce "Death to America!" Patrick?

Trish
04-25-2008, 11:16 PM
How often does the Chairman of the JCoS talk about warring with Canada, Trish?

Rarely, if ever I would think. BUt then Canada isn't Iran is it? I don't believe we're about to go to war with Iran anytime in the immediate future. But the "possibility" exists depending upon Iran's actions. It would be foolish not to prepare for that possibility.

Phyxius
04-25-2008, 11:25 PM
The Pentagon has contingency plans for just about every possibility. I read once (will have to see if I can find the source) that there's even a contingency plan for a war with Canada.


Times have changed
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents
They just want to fart and curse!
Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?

No, blame Canada
Blame Canada
With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada
Blame Canada
We need to form a full assault
It's Canada's fault!

Don't blame me
For my son Stan
He saw the damn cartoon
And now he's off to join the Klan!
And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to f*ck myself!

Well, blame Canada
Blame Canada
It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since Canada came along
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
They're not even a real country anyway

My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer rich and true,
Instead he burned up like a piggy on the barbecue
Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Heck no!

Blame Canada
Blame Canada
With all their hockey hullabaloo
And that bitch Anne Murray too
Blame Canada
Shame on Canada
For...

The smut we must stop
The trash we must bash
The Laughter and fun
Must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!!!!



Sorry, I just couldn't resist... :madlaugh:

Elrathin
04-25-2008, 11:26 PM
How often does the Chairman of the JCoS talk about warring with Canada, Trish?

If Canada said they were planning on creating Chemical weapons or other WMDs, I would imagine you'd hear quite a bit.

Easy90
04-25-2008, 11:34 PM
If Canada said they were planning on creating Chemical weapons or other WMDs, I would imagine you'd hear quite a bit.

The Canadians can't even make decent beer...We're not worried aboot them. LOL... But the libs complaining that we have a contingency plan to take care of Iran...now that's funny! I should hope we do...we're going to need it...and sooner rather than later.

Elrathin
04-25-2008, 11:39 PM
But the libs complaining that we have a contingency plan to take care of Iran...now that's funny! I should hope we do...we're going to need it...and sooner rather than later.

Tell me where the majority of liberals are complaining? I've seen a couple of people on an internet message board complaining.

By that token I would say Ann Coulter represents ALL conservatives right?

PatrickHenry
04-26-2008, 12:58 AM
If Canada said they were planning on creating Chemical weapons or other WMDs, I would imagine you'd hear quite a bit.
So, are you saying that the reason for the blab about military measures against Iran is that they are threatening to produce NBC weapons? :scared:

Elrathin
04-26-2008, 01:02 AM
So, are you saying that the reason for the blab about military measures against Iran is that they are threatening to produce NBC weapons? :scared:

Actually yes PH. This is standard. I assure you that the U.S. military has contingency plans to retaliate against Canada and Mexico if necessary as well.

PatrickHenry
04-26-2008, 01:06 AM
Rarely, if ever I would think. BUt then Canada isn't Iran is it? I don't believe we're about to go to war with Iran anytime in the immediate future. But the "possibility" exists depending upon Iran's actions. It would be foolish not to prepare for that possibility.The plans for warfare are completely understandable. Every nation has a right to self-defense and to plan for turning back an enemy attack.

The public talk about Iran by the Pentagon is a bit more threatening than having a competent confidential plan, wouldn't you agree?

More like a trial balloon...

Trish
04-26-2008, 01:08 AM
Times have changed
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents
They just want to fart and curse!
Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?

No, blame Canada
Blame Canada
With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada
Blame Canada
We need to form a full assault
It's Canada's fault!

Don't blame me
For my son Stan
He saw the damn cartoon
And now he's off to join the Klan!
And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to f*ck myself!

Well, blame Canada
Blame Canada
It seems that everything's gone wrong
Since Canada came along
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
They're not even a real country anyway

My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer rich and true,
Instead he burned up like a piggy on the barbecue
Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Heck no!

Blame Canada
Blame Canada
With all their hockey hullabaloo
And that bitch Anne Murray too
Blame Canada
Shame on Canada
For...

The smut we must stop
The trash we must bash
The Laughter and fun
Must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!!!!



Sorry, I just couldn't resist... :madlaugh:


*LOL* Now that was funny!

Troubadour
04-26-2008, 04:16 AM
And you already know its been coming to this for over a year. The rhetoric has steadily paved the way, the excuse out of the obedient lapdogs Petraeus and Fallon's mouth. hmmm... those Presidential elections we're all worried about might not happen after all.

If they started a war with Iran, the most likely scenario is that they would use it to attack Democratic patriotism, as in 2002 and 2004, and use the various totalitarian powers they've built up to rig another election. Canceling elections altogether, though, is a practical impossibility: The states conduct elections, not the federal government, and what are they going to do about it? Send in troops to stop the elections from taking place? If Republicans had the balls to be that blatant, they would have already done it and been defeated in civil war.


I hope people here are ready for the draft to be reinstated.

This is a highly unlikely concern. The absence of a draft is absolutely necessary for even the Iraq war to continue, let alone the invasion of other countries. If you look at how the Bush regime does things, it's a highly evolved form of authoritarianism - they don't try to directly control the American people, because they know it would be unworkable: They simply exempt themselves from the control OF the American people, and print money for themselves to spend however they please. A draft would be the most radical departure from that strategy imaginable - they would be coming into people's homes and taking away their children to die in wars nobody supports, after the people had watched them deliberately orchestrate those wars. Millions of families would simply refuse, and then what is the regime supposed to do? They would be forced to accept it by the impracticality of doing anything else, and go back to what they're already doing - buying mercenaries and duping dumb kids into signing up voluntarily.

jafar00
04-26-2008, 09:05 AM
Well given that the Iranian Government has been helping murderers kill US soldiers and Iraqi civilians,

So you keep saying without proving the allegation.


it's about time we start to view them as hostel, and begin to take action.

There are a few good youth hostels in Tehran. I think you will find that a simple phone call is a more effective method of booking a room than pointing nukes at them and trying to book via rhetoric filled media announcements. :dork:

Pookie
04-26-2008, 10:53 AM
Originally Posted by Wndrtch
it's about time we start to view them as hostel, and begin to take action.

There are a few good youth hostels in Tehran. I think you will find that a simple phone call is a more effective method of booking a room than pointing nukes at them and trying to book via rhetoric filled media announcements.

Geez. He meant HOSTILE. Simple misspelling. Back to the topic...
Without a contingency plan and military planning, we could end up in Iran like we are in Iraq.
Where were the plans there? Ooops?
Or was the mission accomplished and we missed it?

Pookie