View Full Version : Neo-Nazis plan Hitler birthday events
Alonzo
04-19-2008, 04:28 PM
Several white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups across the United States are planning to hold events commemorating Adolf Hitler's birthday, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) reported Thursday.
Racist rallies, marches, cookouts and other events will be held in Washington, D.C., Chicago, Portland, Houston and Morganton to celebrate the Nazi dictator for his legacy of racism, anti-Semitism and hate.
ADL National Director Abraham H. Foxman has voiced concern over the coinciding of Hilter's birthday, April 20, with the first day of Pessah.
"There is always a concern when the extremist groups use a calendar event as a rallying point to recruit members and to promote anti-Semitism, racism and bigotry," said Foxman. "Hitler's birthday has a special resonance for extremists, not only because of what Adolf Hitler represents, but because there have been violent and deadly attacks directly associated with this date in the past. It is especially troubling since Hitler's birthday falls on the first day of Passover this year."
The ADL has compiled a list of events planned for Hitler's birthday. Among the events are an April 19 march "against illegal immigration" planned by the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement in Washington D.C., and a "racialist cookout" in Morganton planned by Stormfront, an Internet forum popular among white supremacists and anti-Semites.
An "Adolf Hitler Memorial and BBQ" planned in association with the neo-Nazi Hammerskin Nation in Houston will involve live entertainment and a swastika lighting.
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suedanim
04-19-2008, 05:20 PM
An "Adolf Hitler Memorial and BBQ"
Ugh... Totally repulsive.
So there are enough white (I take it these will be white exclusive events, sort of mini-GOP conferences. Will they endorse McCain too?) Americans to crawl out from under their rocks to celebrate that psychopath? How lovely.
Not surprising though. Anybody who thinks racism, anti-semetism or homophobia are dead is either in denial or recently arrived from an alien planet.
Where I live there are usually large crowds, larger usually than the Aryan Nation or KKK numbers marching, attending to protest their activity and its always a very mixed crowd, whites in majority, since whites are dominant here. The rest of the nation should do the same thing. If they can exercise their free speech, so can the rest of us.
Unfortunately, where blacks or browns might protest it could spell trouble. But, of course, thats exactly why these deluded people go public.
micfranklin
04-19-2008, 05:38 PM
I'd celebrate his birthday too...
By putting a grenade to that memorial:fight:
Alonzo
04-19-2008, 05:44 PM
During the Iraq war protests nazi skinheads always used to show up whining about Jews and Israel. One time there were two of them on the Boston common. To give an idea of how reviled they are around here, they were standing around on the outskirts of where the bulk of the protesters were, had no sign and weren't handing out pamphlets (they had them, just weren't doing anything with them yet and they weren't visible). Those two skinheads attracted a crowd of angry people and had to be surrounded by police. The cops kept asking them to leave but they wouldn't, saying they had just as much right to be there as anyone else. They were polite and weren't using slurs or getting angry, I think they were entertained just by the crowd getting angry at them.
Well after the crowd began dying down a bit, and the police protection had dropped to about 2 or 3 (no longer forming a circle around them), a black man began talking to them. He obviously was unhappy they were there, but he wasn't pissed off and screaming at them to leave like a lot of people were.
For the next 10 minutes or so they discussed Iraq, racism and other things. One of the skinheads did most of the talking, the other mostly watched. I listened to the whole thing and it was surprisingly non-racist. Then I saw something I don't think I'll ever forget. They finished their discussion and the skinhead who did most of the talking gave the black guy a hug, and the black guy returned it. The other skinhead seemed to think he was crazy, but despite the mutual hatred (one with skinheads, and one with blacks) it seemed that, despite it all, some basic level of respect and communication had been reached between the two.
I've always wondered what the skinhead who hugged him really thought, and what the other guy said to him after that.
micfranklin
04-19-2008, 05:55 PM
That gets a big "Wow" from me.
Go Fish
04-19-2008, 08:52 PM
Those Socialists are so sentimental!
Buck Laser
04-19-2008, 10:15 PM
Those Socialists are so sentimental!
Although it was called the "National Socialist Party," it was anything but socialist. I think you know that, and are just trying to do your usual thing.
apdst
04-19-2008, 10:29 PM
I think we should all show to rumble with them. Anyone game?
Buck Laser
04-19-2008, 10:44 PM
I think we should all show to rumble with them. Anyone game?
Why am I not the least bit surprised that you and Fish wanna do something to them?
apdst
04-19-2008, 11:00 PM
Why am I not the least bit surprised that you and Fish wanna do something to them?
I take that as a compliment.
micfranklin
04-19-2008, 11:39 PM
I think we should all show to rumble with them. Anyone game?
You already know what I said in my opening post.
Go Fish
04-19-2008, 11:59 PM
Although it was called the "National Socialist Party," it was anything but socialist. I think you know that, and are just trying to do your usual thing.
Why Buck, surely you jest! How does Castro differ from Hitler? There are many different flavors of socialism, but the main ingredient in the recipe is megalomaniacal evil. Hitler was Stalin was Hussein was Clinton.
Go Fish
04-20-2008, 12:00 AM
Why am I not the least bit surprised that you and Fish wanna do something to them?
Buck, personal attacks are NOT permitted here. Keep it up and I'll report your ass.
Troubadour
04-20-2008, 12:13 AM
Ah, an outrage Republicans and Democrats can share - Democrats outraged that anyone would celebrate a murdering tyrant, and Republicans outraged that anyone would celebrate someone else's murdering tyrant.
apdst
04-20-2008, 12:25 AM
Republicans outraged that anyone would celebrate someone else's murdering tyrant.
You're just mad because they are celebrating Hitler's birthday and not Che's.
Go Fish
04-20-2008, 12:35 AM
Ah, an outrage Republicans and Democrats can share - Democrats outraged that anyone would celebrate a murdering tyrant, and Republicans outraged that anyone would celebrate someone else's murdering tyrant.
We vicious warmongers (Speaking as part of the group) fought Hitler until his National Socialist Party was ground to dust, and then prosecuted the survivors at the Nuremberg Trials. Hitler embodied socialism, which is the polar opposite of a representative republic.
The problem with your assertion that Hitler was a republican is that he was proudly, identifiably, and undeniably a socialist. On that point there can be no argument.
Elrathin
04-20-2008, 12:40 AM
Hitler was a fascist, that is quite different than a socialist.
micfranklin
04-20-2008, 12:58 AM
Why should anyone celebrate a murderous tyrant to begin with?
Go Fish
04-20-2008, 01:16 AM
Take the word "fascia" back to its Latin origin.
Go Fish
04-20-2008, 01:23 AM
Or you could just buy a book.
http://www.aim.org/briefing/liberal-fascism-explained/
Go Fish
04-20-2008, 01:28 AM
Hitler was a fascist, that is quite different than a socialist.
Fascism is socialism on a continental or global scale. It is all based on the governing body determining the relative value of its subjects based on arbitrary metrics which are defined by the so-called "leader". Hitler's Germany was pretty much Kruschev's Russia if you had to live there.
micfranklin
04-20-2008, 02:03 AM
Fascism is socialism on a continental or global scale. It is all based on the governing body determining the relative value of its subjects based on arbitrary metrics which are defined by the so-called "leader". Hitler's Germany was pretty much Kruschev's Russia if you had to live there.
Fascism (n): a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Socialism (n): a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
The two are on completely different scales. Socialism does not include racism, as Hitler has told us.
apdst
04-20-2008, 02:44 AM
The two are on completely different scales. Socialism does not include racism, as Hitler has told us.
Tell that to the millions of Jews that Stalin killed after WW2.
Communism, Socialism, Facism, they are all peas in the same pod.
micfranklin
04-20-2008, 02:51 AM
Tell that to the millions of Jews that Stalin killed after WW2.
Communism, Socialism, Facism, they are all peas in the same pod.
Fascism is borderline dictatorship and usually includes a racist factor. The government forces everything on you or you go to jail or be executed.
Communism and socialism are all the people depending on the government for welfare, and not everything is forced on you.
apdst
04-20-2008, 03:08 AM
Communism and socialism are all the people depending on the government for welfare, and not everything is forced on you.
Go to Eastern Europe and tell folks that.
micfranklin
04-20-2008, 03:08 AM
Go to Eastern Europe and tell folks that.
What, tell them the obvious? At least from our point of view?
Go Fish
04-20-2008, 03:09 AM
Robert Mugabe is undeniably a socialist, and undeniably a racist, and that's big-picture shit. Fascism is closely aligned with caste systems, while socialism is more flexible in its assignment of merit to the identified classes.
Either way, the individual has severely limited options to improve their lot in life.
Troubadour
04-20-2008, 05:16 AM
You're just mad because they are celebrating Hitler's birthday and not Che's.
Yes, that's it exactly - your piercing insight has once again left me in awe. Anyway, what exactly is the analogy you see between Che Guevara and Adolf Hitler? "They were both bad furreners"? Oh, I know - they both fought in combat. How embarrassing - everybody else's homicidal madman (although Guevara wasn't exactly that) is some kind of war hero, and all you get is George W. Bush and Dick Cheney: Siamese homunculi with a combined backbone the size of a pinky. You folks need to take the Bush half back to the crazed maniac store and get a refund, maybe come back with a psycho who can at least read. He could have been really scary if he wasn't so pathetic, but they just don't make Antichrists like they used to. But let's forget all this bickering: We should unite in common outrage against the Nazis - Democrats because the Nazis are evil, and Republicans because Nazis are their competitors.
Elrathin
04-20-2008, 05:20 AM
Fascism is closely aligned with caste systems
I hate to tell you this, well no I don't but, so is TRUE capitalism. In America we don't live under a true capitalist society and that is a good thing.
Otherwise we would have people as young as 5 years old working in factories.
As far as caste system we already have it Go Fish. Tell me does a rich person receive the same justice as a poor person? The answer is no. There is already a caste system in America.
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