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khuldun
03-21-2006, 04:54 PM
How do you think the current iran situation should be handled? do you think an attack on iran should be made? i think it should be resolved on diplomatic basis without any bloodshed or war, bush has attacked enough countries already during his tenure
Gritgrat
03-21-2006, 06:43 PM
Have to agree it needs to be resolved in a diplomatic way. We cant keep storming in the way we have done in the past. However it does need to be dealt with
IRoNiK
03-21-2006, 07:32 PM
i saw a poll on the news recently that showed something like 60% of people believed a military action should be taken against Iran. and then something like 30% didnt believe military action should be taken. My question is, if the US did go bomb Iran, within a year, how many of those people would change their mind and decide it wasnt a good idea.
I hope for their sake and ours, a diplomatic solution can be found. But, i sure as heck dont want Iran having nuclear bombs at their disposal.
Old Corps Gunny
04-07-2006, 02:55 PM
Agreed that diplomacy must be tried first, but it is evident that Iran is unlikely to respond to diplomatic efforts. The last thing the world needs is an Islamic fundamentalist theocracy with nuclear weapons in its hands. The question is whether the world is willing to blather while Iran does develop nuclear weapons or will it determine that some kind of force will be needed to take out the enrichment plants before that happens. Also, will it be a multinational effort, or will the US have to go it alone?
penmyst
04-11-2006, 05:56 PM
It's hard to answer this question in today's world.
There was a time when wars were more conventional. That it was a country you had your disagreement with, and that you would settle that disagreement if necessary by force. Since both sides had attachment to their country (a tangible object), fallout was kept in consideration.
But the real threat in the world today is not really individual countries. The real threat is Islam and it's descending terrorist sects. These enemies don't have a country per se. It's hard to detect their form.
The issue with Iran is not that Iran might attack the U.S. or U.S. interests with nuclear capabilities. They can't, and they won't because it would mean eradication of their country. The problem is that they may make those nuclear capabilities available to terrorists because they share the same world viewpoint.
Fighting to protect your country in this new world paradigm isn't going to look like known courses of military action. It's most likely going to require more pre-emptive types of force, such as the Iraq war. And because you are taking actions to cut off *possible* future attacks...those attacks now never happen because you nipped them in the bud... therefore leaving ignorant people to feel that what you did was unnecessary because there were no "attacks" against us.
Much as you see all the second-guessing of President Bush today in regards to the Iraq war. Yet before 9-11 happened, it was widely accepted that Iraq was very much developing WMD and also very much in tight political ties with terrorists (al qaeda in particular) by even the most liberal of news organizations and world countries. But now..
I think that Iran is playing chicken with George Bush at this point. They don't believe the U.S. will do anything about their flagrant disregard of the U.N. or their actively working to develop WMD--- because the U.S. doesn't want another black eye in view of the world as they are taking right now with Iraq.
I don't feel we can take a chance that they are merely bluffing or that a worst case scenario (where Iran attains WMD and gives them to terrorists for use against the U.S. and her interests) won't happen.
It's a serious matter and I think it's only a (short) matter of time before Iran is in the U.S. crosshairs. You can say what you want about the President, but he has generally taken defence of the U.S. as very serious business in light of the 9-11 attacks. I can't see how things aren't going to play out the same in this circumstance with Iran. None of it makes me happy. But part of being an adult is having to deal with making very serious decisions that might not make you comfortable. :|
Survivor
05-28-2007, 07:06 PM
I think we should mind our own business and let Israel fight their next war.
loosecannon
05-28-2007, 07:25 PM
Agreed that diplomacy must be tried first, but it is evident that Iran is unlikely to respond to diplomatic efforts. The last thing the world needs is an Islamic fundamentalist theocracy with nuclear weapons in its hands.
You have never heard about Pakistan? They are an Islamic theocratic democracy , they have nuclear weapons, they have sold nuclear secrets and they offer safe refuge to terrorists.
Hell they even signed a treaty to allow safe refuge to terrorists.
Why does Iran strike more fear into your trembling heart than Pakistan?
The US already declared Iran an axis of evil nation and invaded BOTH of Iran's neighbors. It is way too late for dimplomacy. Besides we want their oil as well.
loosecannon
05-28-2007, 07:27 PM
I think we should mind our own business and let Israel fight their next war.
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jafar00
05-28-2007, 09:23 PM
Agreed that diplomacy must be tried first, but it is evident that Iran is unlikely to respond to diplomatic efforts. The last thing the world needs is an Islamic fundamentalist theocracy with nuclear weapons in its hands.
You have never heard about Pakistan? They are an Islamic theocratic democracy , they have nuclear weapons, they have sold nuclear secrets and they offer safe refuge to terrorists.
Hell they even signed a treaty to allow safe refuge to terrorists.
Correction. Pakistan is a Military Dictatorship with nuclear weapons.
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