Free documentary or book on Muhammad

[Alonzo]

Ran across this and thought it was a good deal. The DVD is a PBS documentary (link (http://www.pbs.org/muhammad/)) and got good reviews. There's also a 13 minute clip available on the website. It seems pretty good if you want to better understand the islamic view of Muhammad. The book got excellent reviews on amazon (link (http://www.amazon.com/Muhammad-Critical-Lives-Yahiya-Emerick/dp/0028643712/sr=8-3/qid=1157491775/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-3805166-3472113?ie=UTF8&s=books)) as well. You can't order multiples though, and can get either the book or DVD, not both. Here's the link for the free book or dvd:

http://www.cair-net.org/Muhammad/

[dsanthony]

This is the third posting on Islam this week. At least zo isn't calling for us to convert as the other two were... he's only hoping to weaken our resolve in the war on terror...

[Alonzo]

I don't remember reading a post here by someone calling for people to convert to Islam. Which user was calling for that?

But if there wasn't so much bigotry against muslims and ignorance about Islam there wouldn't be much point. The whole point of these boards is to debate and argue your side. Simply a lessening of prejudice directed against muslims, even if it only occurs in 1 person, is better than nothing.

The less people know about something, the more likely they are to make generalizations. No rational person would blame all christians for their most radical fringes, as we see many different views on christianity in our daily lives. Yet such overgeneralizations are commonplace when dealing with muslims.

[T.J. Wolfe]

I ordered the book. Seems like a good read.

[rodeojones903]

. No rational person would blame all christians for their most radical fringes, as we see many different views on christianity in our daily lives. Yet such overgeneralizations are commonplace when dealing with muslims.


But the radical fringe christians are not committing mass murder and calling for people to convert to christianity or die. You don't see a difference between the two, and thats the problem.

[Alonzo]

But the radical fringe christians are not committing mass murder and calling for people to convert to christianity or die.Â*Â*You don't see a difference between the two, and thats the problem.


Actually, such groups exist:

The national liberation front of Tripura:

An estimated 11,000 have been killed on both sides of the conflict. In addition, the terror has left over 40,000 as refugees.

The NLFT has also issued threats against any citizens who adhere to Indian or Hindu culture and asked the Tripuri people to reclaim their lost glory and past culture maligned and disturbed by Indian Hindu and Bengali cultures. They have used threats against people who celebrate traditional Hindu festivals such as Durga Pooja and Makar Sankranthi, listen to Indian music, watch Indian TV and films, and wear bangles or bindis. However, the NLFT has forced tribal women to performing in pornography that is sold to finance their operations......

The Baptist Church of Tripura was initially set up by missionaries from New Zealand in the 1940s. Despite their efforts, even until the 1980s, only a few thousand people in Tripura had converted to Christianity.

In the aftermath of one of the worst ethnic riots, supposedly engineered by the Church, the NLFT was born in 1989 with the help of the Baptist Church. Since then, the NLFT has been advancing its cause through armed compulsion.

The Baptist Church of Tripura has been accused of supporting this violent campaign by providing funding and arms for the group. In April of 2000, Nagmanlal Halam, secretary of the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura, was caught providing 50 gelatine sticks, 5 kilograms of potassium and 2 kilograms of sulphur and other ingredients for making explosives to the group. Halam later confessed to buying and supplying explosives to the NLFT for the past two years.

In another incident in August 2003, police arrested the secretary of a Baptist Christian Missionary church in North Tripura District who was in possession of five kg of potassium, one kg sulphur, few gelatin sticks and 45 gm of high explosive materials.

In Tripura, such arrest and seizures of arms and explosives from the members of the Baptist church is a common occurrence and the link between the National Liberation Front of Tripura and the Tripura Baptist Church has been well established.

http://www.answers.com/topic/national-liberation-front-of-tripura

One of the attacks christians are believed to have been behind:

Some 44 people were killed and 118 wounded in three nearly simultaneous bomb blasts Saturday morning in Dimapur, Nagaland's commercial hub, in what a top official called the "worst ever terrorist strike" in the tiny state's history.

Gunmen in neighbouring Assam state later killed 15 villagers and injured a dozen more, police said.

"There were limbs everywhere and blood was splattered all over," said student leader T. Zheviho who was at crowded Dimapur railway station where one bomb exploded as passengers awaited a train.

Two other bombs went off in the Hong Kong market, which sells Chinese goods, and an adjacent market.

"I had a miraculous escape," Zheviho told AFP by telephone from Dimapur, 70 kilometers (45 miles) east of Nagaland capital Kohima.

Police said the plastic explosive RDX appeared to have been used in the railway blast that created a huge crater beside a platform.

"We found a briefcase with fuse wires... it contained RDX and a timer-device," V. Peseyie, Dimapur additional police chief, said.

Seventeen more people were killed in a wave of attacks in neighbouring Assam, police said.

Unidentified attackers raked shoppers with gunfire at a marketplace in Makri Jhora village, 290 kilometres (180 miles) west of Assam's main city of Guwahati, killing 11 and injuring about a dozen, police said.

The same gunmen later shot dead four more villagers in a nearby forest, police superintendent L. R. Bishnoi told AFP. Two more people were killed and 10 injured in two blasts in the Assamese district of Bongaingaon, 220 kilometres (136 miles) from Guwahati, Bishnoi said.

One person was killed and seven wounded in an earlier bomb blast in Assam.

Police also reported two other bombings in a village on the outskirts of Guwahati in which four people were injured.

There were no immediate claims of responsibility for the day of bloodshed in the insurgency-infested northeast where some 30 guerrilla groups are battling for greater autonomy or independence.

The attacks occurred as India marked the 135th anniversary of the birth of Mahatma Gandhi who waged a campaign of non-violence to free the country from British rule.

"It is distressing such violence broke out on the birth anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi," Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said in the capital New Delhi.

Nagaland's ill-equipped hospitals battled to treat the wounded.

"Many have multiple face and abdomen wounds. They're in a state of trauma. We're trying to cope. We've never had such a devastating emergency," said doctor T. Lotha at a private hospital in Dimapur treating blast victims.

Nagaland Chief Minister Neibhiu Rio said at least 26 people were killed in the Dimapur blasts and another 86 were in hospital. "The death toll may go up as many are in a very critical condition," he said.

"This is the worst ever terrorist strike in Nagaland. People are still dealing with the shock -- they're not yet thinking about who to blame."

Mourners crowded churches across Nagaland, which is mostly Christian, to pray for the victims.

The blasts were the second major burst of violence in the northeast since mid-August. Fifteen people, many of them children, were killed in a rebel attack on an Independence Day parade in Assam August 15 for which the United Liberation Front of Asom claimed responsibility.

The armed insurgency in Nagaland began soon after much of the local population converted to Christianity. Many militant groups, seeking to secede from India to form an independent Christian state, are funded and armed by the Southern Baptist Church. Some of the groups such as the National Liberation Front of Tripura have been involved in a campaign of “gunpoint conversions� and “ethnic cleansing� of native non-Christians, which has left over 50,000 dead and many more refugees over the past two decades.

Originally from http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1503&ncid=1503&e=6&u=/afp/20041002/ts_afp/india_northeast_blast but the link is dead.

Then in places like Nigeria you have constant attacks on christians and muslims, there's the lords resistance army in uganda, God's Army in Myanmar etc.

Then there's Judaism, were the likes of Baruch Goldstein are celebrated for their "heroism". There's even a wine bearing his name.

But these are corrupted versions of their religion and not representative of the real message of christianity or mainstream christians (or jews). We, as christians, recognize that. But since most have little contact with Muslims and Islam it is much harder to see Islam as we see Christianity.

[bobbylien]

But these are corrupted versions of their religion and not representative of the real message of christianity or mainstream christians (or jews). We, as christians, recognize that. But since most have little contact with Muslims and Islam it is much harder to see Islam as we see Christianity.

I think many people want to believe that Islam as a whole is responsible for terrorism. That makes the issue simple enough for them to understand. Arab = terrorist is the only thing many people are capable of understanding. Ignorance is the one and only cause of racism and bigotry. I think hearing about Islam from someone besides Osama or Limbaugh will help us all. I don't think even Limbaugh would agree with many of the things certain conservatives have said on this forum. People like chess and PAD really are in a league of their own. I just can't believe that someone would declare an entire people to be evil without knowing one of them. Its the same kind of thinking that has fueled racism throughout history.

[dsanthony]

Muslims, especially muslims in Europe and the US, have not been vocal in condemning the terrorist attacks and cartoon wars. They must do so.

[T.J. Wolfe]

But the radical fringe christians are not committing mass murder and calling for people to convert to christianity or die. You don't see a difference between the two, and thats the problem.


Actually, such groups exist:

The national liberation front of Tripura:


That'd be funny to have terrorist groups for all religions, including atheism.

[Alonzo]

Muslims, especially muslims in Europe and the US, have not been vocal in condemning the terrorist attacks and cartoon wars.Â*Â*They must do so.


I've posted many lists, on multiple occasions, of muslims denouncing terror. I'll dig on of them up if you want.

Such statements are all over the place, it's not their fault if it doesn't make front page news, or the news period. And, besides, I don't expect christians to denounce clinic bombings they had nothing to do with, or Americans to denounce Abu Ghraid. These people have nothing to do with these acts. Yet, despite that, muslims repeatedly denounce terror.

[T.J. Wolfe]

I'm terribly sorry for my laziness, but I'd like you to dig them up. I'd actually be interested in reading them.

[bobbylien]

Muslims, especially muslims in Europe and the US, have not been vocal in condemning the terrorist attacks and cartoon wars. They must do so.

I think you have to realize that the media doesn't report everything. Not seeing the heads of the worlds muslim community denouncing terrorism on fox news doesn't mean they arent doing it.

[Alonzo]

I'm terribly sorry for my laziness, but I'd like you to dig them up.Â*Â*I'd actually be interested in reading them.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4191015.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/beds/bucks/herts/3657153.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3646412.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3586565.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1554177.stm
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2001-09/13/article1.shtml
http://muslim-canada.org/news09112001.html
http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/news.php?article=1062
http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=AM0109-335
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3939799.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3586703.stm
http://www.risu.org.ua/eng/news/article;3133/
http://english.aljazeera.net/english/404.aspx?URL=http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/350FB8C0-11C5-41A1-BC13-C493E891050B.htm?GUID={F273E152-91F8-433C-8DCB-2353FE9D535F}
http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/news.php?article=1080
http://www.adcnj.us/muslim-denounce-terror-ad.htm
http://www.islamfortoday.com/america05.htm
http://www.cmcla.org/press_r/condem_attacks.htm
http://www.proislam.com/articles_repudiate%20hate.htm
http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/aug/27blast3.htm
http://www.iio.org/article.php?story=20040515081444334
http://www.glocaleye.org/binladen.htm

Those are from a post on another forum I made in january of 2005, so they're a little outdated.

Cair also assembled a large amount of condemnations for 9/11: http://www.cair.com/html/911statements.html

[lovely_girl_brunette]

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[firefox]

And yet you have issues when it comes to using the computer keyboard? 8-) JK