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NDNdancer
04-14-2008, 06:25 AM
This might be one reason we're not out of this illegal, immoral, unwinnable war.

http://ipsnorthamerica.net/news.php?idnews=1397

FINANCE:
U.S. Lawmakers Invested in Iraq, Afghanistan Wars
Abid Aslam
WASHINGTON, 7 Apr (IPS) - U.S. lawmakers have a financial interest in military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, a review of financial documents has revealed.

Members of Congress invested nearly 196 million dollars of their own money in companies that receive hundreds of millions of dollars a day from Pentagon contracts to provide goods and services to U.S. armed forces, say nonpartisan watchdog groups.

David Petraeus, the top U.S. general in Iraq, is to brief the Senate Foreign Relations and Armed Services committees on Tuesday and Wednesday. The latest findings are unlikely to have a significant impact on this week's proceedings but could stoke anti-incumbent sentiment in this year of presidential and legislative elections.

Lawmakers charged with overseeing Pentagon contractors hold stock in those very firms, as do vocal critics of the war in Iraq, says the Centre for Responsive Politics (CRP).

Senator John Kerry, the Democrat from Massachusetts who staked his 2004 presidential bid in part on his opposition to the war, tops the list of investors. His holdings in firms with Pentagon contracts of at least five million dollars stood at between 28.9 million dollars and 38.2 million dollars as of Dec. 31, 2006. Kerry sits on the Senate foreign relations panel.

Members of Congress are required to report their personal finances every year but only need to state their assets in broad ranges.

Other top investors include Representative Rodney Frelinghuysen, a New Jersey Republican with holdings of 12.1 million - 49.1 million dollars; Rep. Robin Hayes, a North Carolina Republican (9.2 million - 37.1 million dollars); Republican Rep. James Sensenbrenner Jr. of Wisconsin (5.2 million - 7.6 million dollars); and Rep. Jane Harman, a California Democrat (2.7 million - 6.3 million dollars).

Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the Democrat and former governor of West Virginia who chairs the Senate Select Intelligence Committee, invested some 2.0 million dollars in Pentagon contractors, CRP says.

Other panel chiefs who invested in defence firms include Sen. Joseph Lieberman, the Connecticut Independent who presides over the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Rep. Howard Berman, the California Democrat who heads the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

In all, 151 current members of Congress -- more than one-fourth of the total -- have invested between 78.7 million dollars and 195.5 million dollars in companies that received defence contracts of at least 5.0 million dollars, according to CRP.

These companies received more than 275.6 billion dollars from the government in 2006, or 755 million dollars per day, says budget watchdog group OMB Watch.

The investments yielded lawmakers 15.8 million - 62 million dollars in dividend income, capital gains, royalties, and interest from 2004 through 2006, says CRP.

Not all the firms deal in arms or military equipment. Some make soft drinks or medical supplies and military contracts represent a small fraction of their revenues. Many are leaders in their industries and, as such, feature in the investment portfolios of millions of ordinary people who invest at least a portion of their savings in mutual funds, which in turn hold stocks in up to hundreds of companies.

'Giant corporations outside of the defence sector, such as Pepsico, IBM, Microsoft and Johnson & Johnson, have received defence contracts and are all popular investments for both members of Congress and the general public,' says CRP.

'So common are these companies, both as personal investments and as defence contractors, it would appear difficult to build a diverse blue-chip stock portfolio without at least some of them,' the group acknowledges.

If some of the stocks appear innocent, aides say legislators also are. Some did not buy the stocks in question but inherited them. Many hold them in blind trusts, so called because the investments are handled by independent entities, at least theoretically without the politicians' knowledge of how their assets are being managed.

Even so, according to CRP, owning stock in companies under contract with the Pentagon could prove 'problematic for members of Congress who sit on committees that oversee defence policy and budgeting.'

Members of the Senate Foreign Relations and Armed Services committees held 3.0 million - 5.1 million dollars in companies specialising in weapons and other exclusively military goods and services, it added.

Critics have assailed President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney for their ties to companies seen as benefiting from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Bush was characterised as pushing conflict in the interest of the oil fraternity whence he hailed.

Before becoming vice president, Cheney headed Halliburton, a major player in the oil services industry and the object of controversies involving political connections, government contracts, and business ethics.

Halliburton's subsidiary, Kellogg Brown & Root, was given multi-billion-dollar contracts to provide construction, hospitality, and other services to the U.S. military following the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The contracts drew fire because of Cheney's history and then-ongoing financial relationship with the firm, and because the company did not have to compete for the Pentagon's business. The firm was renamed KBR Inc. after Halliburton spun it off last year.

Pookie
04-14-2008, 06:38 AM
Hmmm. Maybe that's why I'm a little fed up with politicians on both sides of the aisle.
Purrs,
Pookie

PostmodernProphet
04-14-2008, 12:34 PM
I thought politicians had to put their money in blind trusts while in office, so they wouldn't know what they were invested in.....

Truth_and_Power
04-14-2008, 02:02 PM
I thought politicians had to put their money in blind trusts while in office, so they wouldn't know what they were invested in.....

Amazing that this journalist knows while they do not. I wonder if they have special earplugs..

lawless168
04-14-2008, 03:14 PM
Amazing that this journalist knows while they do not. I wonder if they have special earplugs..LOL, that’s what I was thinking. But lets believe every word since its what I want to believe.

AlanC
04-14-2008, 05:10 PM
Not all the firms deal in arms or military equipment. Some make soft drinks or medical supplies and military contracts represent a small fraction of their revenues. Many are leaders in their industries and, as such, feature in the investment portfolios of millions of ordinary people who invest at least a portion of their savings in mutual funds, which in turn hold stocks in up to hundreds of companies.

This is whats pertinent to this whole article and what reveals it to be mere sensationalism.

Under this definition, anyone who holds mutual funds is "invested" in and profiteering from the war.

You will note the wide ranges of these estimated holdings? It appears the author doesn't know exactly what each is invested in either.

Do you all know what exact stocks your mutual fund has invested in? Do you know what exact stocks your pension fund is invested in? It would not take too much effort for someone with an agenda to show that you also are a war profiteer.

File this one under the category of the media scraping the bottom of yet another barrel to invent a story.

If I buy 500 shares of Pepsico and they have a contract to supply soft drinks to Iraq, does that really make me someone who is profiting from the war? No, it doesn't.

just a grunt
04-14-2008, 10:22 PM
From another article on this topic:

According to the most recent reports of their personal finances, 151 current members of Congress had between $78.7 million and $195.5 million invested in companies that received defense contracts of at least $5 million in 2006

If the list could be refined to a much higher floor, there could be value in it. As it exists, Bayer Aspririn or M&Ms are possibly counted in the $5mm criteria.

http://www.capitaleye.org/inside.asp?ID=342

NDNdancer
04-15-2008, 07:56 PM
This is whats pertinent to this whole article and what reveals it to be mere sensationalism.

Under this definition, anyone who holds mutual funds is "invested" in and profiteering from the war.

You will note the wide ranges of these estimated holdings? It appears the author doesn't know exactly what each is invested in either.

Do you all know what exact stocks your mutual fund has invested in? Do you know what exact stocks your pension fund is invested in? It would not take too much effort for someone with an agenda to show that you also are a war profiteer.

File this one under the category of the media scraping the bottom of yet another barrel to invent a story.

If I buy 500 shares of Pepsico and they have a contract to supply soft drinks to Iraq, does that really make me someone who is profiting from the war? No, it doesn't.

I wonder if your selective reading pertains to the following quotes as well?
Senator John Kerry, the Democrat from Massachusetts who staked his 2004 presidential bid in part on his opposition to the war, tops the list of investors. His holdings in firms with Pentagon contracts of at least five million dollars stood at between 28.9 million dollars and 38.2 million dollars as of Dec. 31, 2006. Kerry sits on the Senate foreign relations panel.
Are you trying to tell me that he's so rich that he wouldn't even know that he had 5 million and up invested in a certain company? Bullshit.

Members of the Senate Foreign Relations and Armed Services committees held 3.0 million - 5.1 million dollars in companies specialising in weapons and other exclusively military goods and services, it added.
Okay, so a good portion, we don't know for certain, but some of the companies are IBM, Pepsi, etc........ but these are weapons and exclusively military goods and services. This committee in particular is responsible in large part in awarding and approving those contracts for these arms dealers. Tell me again how this isn't a conflict of interest?

Sublimating
04-16-2008, 12:21 AM
I guess it's to be expected that those on the right will simply dismiss out of hand this sort of reporting as sensationalism. I would think that even if it were only partly true it would warrant some concern. Despite the accusations on both sides of the isle some seem to think this is just another attempt to smear the incumbent president.:unreal:

BoogyMan
04-16-2008, 12:27 AM
This is whats pertinent to this whole article and what reveals it to be mere sensationalism.

Under this definition, anyone who holds mutual funds is "invested" in and profiteering from the war.

You will note the wide ranges of these estimated holdings? It appears the author doesn't know exactly what each is invested in either.

Do you all know what exact stocks your mutual fund has invested in? Do you know what exact stocks your pension fund is invested in? It would not take too much effort for someone with an agenda to show that you also are a war profiteer.

File this one under the category of the media scraping the bottom of yet another barrel to invent a story.

If I buy 500 shares of Pepsico and they have a contract to supply soft drinks to Iraq, does that really make me someone who is profiting from the war? No, it doesn't.

Well said AlanC, you beat me to it. Anyone with holdings in the industrial sector could be called to account for their "profiteering" based on this kind of logic that assumes intent.

Moorington
04-16-2008, 01:28 AM
I wonder if your selective reading pertains to the following quotes as well?

Are you trying to tell me that he's so rich that he wouldn't even know that he had 5 million and up invested in a certain company? Bullshit.

I hate to be defending a democrat, but saying you've recieved a Pentagon contract is now and days like saying you've filled out a 1040- everything from the food, to the showers, to the equipment is all contracted out. Hell, for all this article tells us, he could've had 5 million invested in Sarah Lee (a big Pentagon contracter)- that bastard.