You can have your Tiger Woods, we've got Senator McCain

[ViolaLee]

McCain keeps having guys introduce him who take pot shots at Obama. McCain says he wants a clean campaign, and this time he hasn't apologized for this comment. Was this meant to be a racist comment? What did this guy mean by this? McCain laughed. I guess he approves.

If McCain supports Obama for President it could mean the comparison with Tiger Woods means Obama is a winner and will make it to the White House. But I doubt that's true, since McCain is running against Obama. Does McCain think it's funny because he's comparing Obama to a black golfer? I don't get the joke. If McCain is not supporting Obama for President, isn't this disrespecful to laugh at this comparison?

So much for a clean campaign. McCain doesn't think he can have his underlings make racist and disrespectful remarks and consider himself to be keeping it clean does he?

Rest assured," he told the crowd, "that men like Senator McCain will be the goal and the men that my two young boys will emulate and admire. You can have your Tiger Woods, we've got Senator McCain."

The line, first reported by NBC and Hotline, received a loud roar from the crowd and, standing behind and to the left of Bellavia, McCain let out an approving laugh. But considering the rate at which Tiger Woods is winning golf tournaments these days, McCain's camp may be hoping the analogy doesn't prove true.

McCain Speaker: Have Your Tiger Woods, We've Got McCain - Politics on The Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/mccain-speaker-have-your_n_95665.html)

[Trish]

Where's the rest of the comments? The link only gives a partial quote and not a link to the entirety of the comments. It's kinda of hard to know what the guy was attempting without reading the whole thing.

[ViolaLee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhZEJiu03MU

edit, guess that doesn't work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhZEJiu03MU

[cronic]

good point Viola..
What does Tiger woods have to do with it?..

sounds almost like racially toned sarcasm to me.

[Buck Laser]

good point Viola..
What does Tiger woods have to do with it?..

sounds almost like racially toned sarcasm to me.

Racially toned? Why, heavens above!! The republicans would NEVER do that! After all, they freed the slaves, didn't they? :unreal:

[cronic]

Racially toned? Why, heavens above!! The republicans would NEVER do that! After all, they freed the slaves, didn't they? :unreal:

Sorry.. I know you won't want to hear this Buck because it hinders the silly little war that you try to have with others here, ( actually I enjoy sitting back and watching it most of the time ),
But anyways, point being...

Racial to me has nothing to do with republican or democratic or conservative or liberal like it does with you.

It's also not a political issue to me
It's a human issue!

To me, Its more of a personal, individual ugliness adopted by said person or persons.. not a label of said person or persons.
Have a nice day! :peace:

[Buck Laser]

Sorry.. I know you won't want to hear this Buck because it hinders the silly little war that you try to have with others here, ( actually I enjoy sitting back and watching it most of the time ),
But anyways, point being...

Racial to me has nothing to do with republican or democratic or conservative or liberal like it does with you.

It's also not a political issue to me
It's a human issue!

To me, Its more of a personal, individual ugliness adopted by said person or persons.. not a label of said person or persons.
Have a nice day! :peace:

Huh? I'd vote for Obama if he were blue. I've been an Obama supporter since he announced back in Feb. '07. Race isn't an issue, because I believe he'd have even more enthusiastic voters if he weren't identified as black.

I was satirizing the many people, particularly on the conservative side, who insist on bringing race into the race (so to speak). Apdst, for example, says "we can't have a black president." 4Reaganomics says he's a Muslim.

It may be difficult to separate race from the equation, but let me reiterate: I support Obama for his ideas, leadership and intelligence. I'd support him if he were white and all his opponents were black. I don't know how I can make it any clearer.

[cronic]

I know what you was satirizing Buck and we are all good... I know you wanna vote for Obama.. thats great..
I have no problem with you or Obama or the race issue there..

I also don't need a clearer picture about your feelings on Obama. I respect them and I think that its admirable who ever you vote for, you vote on ideas, leadership, and intelligence and not color or religion

My response was just what it is..

I know you was making that comment for others here like apdst and 4reagonomics like you just said.
It was an opportunity for you to throw out that "bad republican" sarcasm again
just like they do about democrats and liberals sometimes.

Try not to take it personal, really.. believe me when I say.

I guarantee that if either of them had said that about democrats.. or republicans or libbos even, I would have said the same thing to them.

When racism is viewed by me. (the Mccain speaker in this case) .
( regardless of it being a rep or dem ), It doesn't matter which side it comes from.. its just backwards thinking and ugliness to me... period!

They are shallow people, who I could care less which political side they are on.

[ECW]

The point here being that it was the McCain campaign who brought this guy in to introduce McCain to the crowd, he made a racist joke, and McCain laughed at it. What's next? Digging out some of Earl Butz's old material?

[BoogyMan]

OK, somebody, PLEASE explain to me how this was a racist comment.

[Elrathin]

OK, somebody, PLEASE explain to me how this was a racist comment.

You've got your black star, we've got our white guy is the way I took it Boogy.

[BoogyMan]

I saw it more as you have got your young star, we have our older experienced guy who we feel will be looked up to. That is the way that Tiger Woods was viewed by a lot of the PGA establishment as he came in and was shaking things up, and I assumed that was how this was intended.

[Elrathin]

I saw it more as you have got your young star, we have our older experienced guy who we feel will be looked up to. That is the way that Tiger Woods was viewed by a lot of the PGA establishment as he came in and was shaking things up, and I assumed that was how this was intended.

Then why not just say "You've got your inexperienced candidate, and we have a more experienced one"? Why bring a Tiger Woods analogy into it at all?

[PostmodernProphet]

Why bring a Tiger Woods analogy into it at all?

I agree....Tiger had inarguable talent BEFORE anybody started talking good about him......Obama has been talked up for years and STILL hasn't demonstrated any talent.....if you got green jackets for being senators, Obama would be wearing a t-shirt that said "I got elected to senate and all your getting is this shirt"......

[ECW]

Then why not just say "You've got your inexperienced candidate, and we have a more experienced one"? Why bring a Tiger Woods analogy into it at all?

Racist humor. Republicans still find that stuff funny. Next thing you know they'll be doing Amos & Andy commercials that bash Obama, written by Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter - geist.

[BoogyMan]

Then why not just say "You've got your inexperienced candidate, and we have a more experienced one"? Why bring a Tiger Woods analogy into it at all?

I don't know what to think about this as I never saw it as racist, more as "matter of fact" type commentary. I still don't get it and am hoping that you can enlighten me. Surely it isn't seen as racist simply because a black man was mentioned?

[preservanation]

Huh? I'd vote for Obama if he were blue. I've been an Obama supporter since he announced back in Feb. '07. Race isn't an issue, because I believe he'd have even more enthusiastic voters if he weren't identified as black.
Well, aren't you the enlightened one. Much more enlightened than Michell Obama who said this...Campaigning for her husband today at a historically black college in South Carolina, Michelle Obama told the audience that a Barack Obama win would change the country's image in a big way. "Imagine our family on that inaugural platform," she said. "America will look at itself differently. The world will look at America differently. There is no other candidate who is going to do that for our country. You know that." http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/11/michelle_obama_my_husbands_victory_would_change_am ericas_image.php

Maybe you aren't voting for him because Obama is black, but his wife and his campaign would surely like others to do so.

This is called identity politics..."Vote for me cause I'm black"..."Vote for me cause I'm female".
This is the same identity politics which spill into liberal legislative public policies as well..."Hire me because I'm black"..."Hire me because I'm female".
Individual qualifications have absolutely nothing to do with it.

[Buck Laser]

Well, aren't you the enlightened one. Much more enlightened than Michell Obama who said this... http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/11/michelle_obama_my_husbands_victory_would_change_am ericas_image.php

Maybe you aren't voting for him because Obama is black, but his wife and his campaign would surely like others to do so.

This is called identity politics..."Vote for me cause I'm black"..."Vote for me cause I'm female".
This is the same identity politics which spill into liberal legislative public policies as well..."Hire me because I'm black"..."Hire me because I'm female".
Individual qualifications have absolutely nothing to do with it.
Maybe I should have said something like "I'm not voting for him only because he's black. But whatever, Preserv, you're bound and fucking determined to find a way to make this a racial issue.

My point is that regardless of fools like Geraldine Ferraro, I believe Obama would have an even bigger lead in the polls if he weren't black, because people couldn't use his race as a convenient excuse for excluding him from consideration--now there's identity politics for you!