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PatrickHenry
04-09-2008, 01:20 AM
Conservatives think that Uncle Sam is always right. They support misusing the military for any damn reason whatsoever!
They also have no heart for the less fortunate.
They think that if you're hungry, you should just eat whatever is handy like dirt or gravel or your own fingernails...
They are retards who hate homosexuals and Arabs.
But they love Israel, that shitty little country that manipulates US foreign policy and makes a killing off foreign aid.
They never heard of the environment. I guess they can get their air from an oxygen bottle...
They think that sins ought to be against the law...like smoking weed.
The only thing they get right is that government shouldn't run up huge debts for the taxpayers to deal with...
DamnYankee
04-09-2008, 05:19 AM
Hello there PH,
You sound like a person I could have a lively discussion with!! This conservative says:
The American military ought to be used to defend the country.
Conservatives give more to charity that liberals.
Conservatives come from all walks of life and do not like the fact one life style, race, color, creed, ought to have preferred treatment over another.
Yes, they like Israel. The only democracy in the ME. Imagine that, supporting freedom.
Despite liberals, like Al Gore, who fly around in fuel guzzling Lear Jets, or the Hollyweird left who cruise around in Limos, not every conservative wants you to breathe dirty air. Just look at the Los Angeles basin. A city full of lefties. The worse and filthiest air there is. Some of the grossest dirtiest crappiest cities are controlled by liberals.
Smoking dope are what leftist do. More power to them! One can only get so stupid.
They get more right then taxes. Unlike your liberals who spend first and ask questions later.
Pookie
04-09-2008, 05:26 AM
Not all of us smoke dope. I know conservatives who get stoned and tell us how great Bush is and all.
Liberals are more concerned about the environment than you know.
We're not stupid.
Why do you continue to stereotype us?
I want to see some links to legitimate sources to back up your claims from now on, DY.
And Patrick, if you're going to enter this argument, back yourself up too. You'll need it.
Purrs,
Pookie
Troubadour
04-09-2008, 06:48 AM
Conservatives think that Uncle Sam is always right.
Ultimately, everything wrong with conservatives comes down to a single absolute belief: "I am always right." An allegedly Christian conservative doesn't believe in Christ - they believe in their own infallibility, which is why everything they believe as children they'll believe the rest of their lives. All a conservative knows is what it wants, and reshapes reality around that desire - like an infant. If they want to satisfy their narcissism with national symbols, they don't work to make America better and improve the value of those symbols - they just work to hide problems, and punish people who bring them to light. They are magical thinkers who never psychologically left the womb, which is probably why they're so obsessed with abortion. Maybe they're afraid they never actually DID leave the womb, and allowing abortion means they'll get whacked.
Phyxius
04-09-2008, 07:46 AM
Combine that with the "I got mine so screw the rest of you" attitude and I think you probably nailed it... :ponder:
jafar00
04-09-2008, 08:04 AM
The American military ought to be used to defend the country.
I'll agree when your military is actually used in defense rather than pre-emptive attack and invasion.
Yes, they like Israel. The only democracy in the ME. Imagine that, supporting freedom.
Israel is surrounded by Democracies, just not US styled ones.
preservanation
04-09-2008, 11:05 AM
Conservatives believe in our founding documents and the value of free markets and individual potential. Libs believe in Gov and the redistribution of wealth. In short libs are socialists.
Our nation is a great experiment which has served us well for over 200 years by resisting the puddinheaded ideologies from the left.
Socialism is easy...and that's why it fails. Eventually the producers can no longer support the non producers because socialism takes away incentive to succeed.
Marx once said that socialism is the transition from capitalism to communism.
That's where we are.
We have to choose where we are going to go...continue the success of the great experiment, of tumble down the hill of Marxism?
We all know which side of the fence some on the left are, and their fences usually end up being tipped with razor wire.
Elrathin
04-09-2008, 11:23 AM
Conservatives believe in our founding documents and the value of free markets and individual potential.
So you believe in child labor then right? Because it was government that intervened on that one.
Sorry Pres, but you're "Conservatives are true Americans, while liberals are socialists" routine isn't going to get past the facts that some government intervention IS good.
preservanation
04-09-2008, 11:38 AM
So you believe in child labor then right? Because it was government that intervened on that one.
Sorry Pres, but you're "Conservatives are true Americans, while liberals are socialists" routine isn't going to get past the facts that some government intervention IS good.Conservatives believe that the rights that the Gov are responsible for protecting are spelled out in the US Constitution and specifically in our Bill Of Rights, not the Communist Manifesto.
Elrathin
04-09-2008, 11:42 AM
Conservatives believe that the rights that the Gov are responsible for protecting are spelled out in the US Constitution and specifically in our Bill Of Rights, not the Communist Manifesto.
I don't see child labor laws in the constitution or bill of rights do you? However, government still intervened, so it is good you believe companies should have the right to use child labor since you are against government.
preservanation
04-09-2008, 11:57 AM
I don't see child labor laws in the constitution or bill of rights do you? However, government still intervened, so it is good you believe companies should have the right to use child labor since you are against government.You have a good example there El, but that is why we distinguish between adults and minors. The courts have determined that there is an age where a person is not mature enough to make a rational decision concerning their own actions.
With parental consent minors can still work, but labor standards are enforced per the interpretation from the courts.
This line has blurred since we started prosecuting minors as adults.
Pick and choose if you like and make your absolutist arguments all you want, but deep down you know I'm right!
Elrathin
04-09-2008, 12:02 PM
You have a good example there El, but that is why we distinguish between adults and minors. The courts have determined that there is an age where a person is not mature enough to make a rational decision concerning their own actions.
With parental consent minors can still work, but labor standards are enforced per the interpretation from the courts.
This line has blurred since we started prosecuting minors as adults.
Pick and choose if you like and make your absolutist arguments all you want, but deep down you know I'm right!
Ahh but child labor laws came down before the courts rules that. And in many cases it was the parents forcing their own children to work.
Sorry Pres, but you are caught in this one. You either support government involvement with child labor or you don't and you support child labor. Take your pick.
As for being right about Conservatives being "American" and Liberals being socialists, sorry I'll never see that and actually find your statement lacking any intelligible reasons to broadly paint liberals as entire socialists.
DamnYankee
04-09-2008, 03:04 PM
Pookie,
You misunderstood me. I didn't say you were stupid. I said dope smoking can only make you MORE stupid. They do not call it "dope" for a reason. Perhaps that clears things up a bit.
Pookie
04-09-2008, 04:00 PM
Hello there PH,
You sound like a person I could have a lively discussion with!! This conservative says:
The American military ought to be used to defend the country.
Conservatives give more to charity that liberals.
Conservatives come from all walks of life and do not like the fact one life style, race, color, creed, ought to have preferred treatment over another.
Yes, they like Israel. The only democracy in the ME. Imagine that, supporting freedom.
Despite liberals, like Al Gore, who fly around in fuel guzzling Lear Jets, or the Hollyweird left who cruise around in Limos, not every conservative wants you to breathe dirty air. Just look at the Los Angeles basin. A city full of lefties. The worse and filthiest air there is. Some of the grossest dirtiest crappiest cities are controlled by liberals.
Smoking dope are what leftist do. More power to them! One can only get so stupid.
They get more right then taxes. Unlike your liberals who spend first and ask questions later.
Smoking dope are what leftist do. More power to them! One can only get so stupid.
I'm a leftist and a liberal. I don't do that. I hate this stereotyping crap. When I try to make a point, invariably it's "Oh Pookie's a liberal."
My PMs are proof of that. More than once I've been cursed, insulted, and labeled by angry members in PM.
Spend first and ask questions later? Bush is doing all the spending, putting us deeper and deeper into debt. He knows the economy is in trouble -- why do you think he's giving people checks?
And with investigations into wasting money, how come Bush isn't asking questions?
FEMA wasted much money, for instance. Money for sex changes, for God's sake.
I'm fed up and I hate accusations of being a socialist and ignorant. I am neither.
Conservatives always say we liberals insult them and call them names. Well, you conservatives are not much better.
I would suggest looking at both sides fairly without rancor, and therein lies the truth.
Pookie
Alonzo
04-09-2008, 04:11 PM
Smoking dope are what leftist do. More power to them! One can only get so stupid.
Some of the grossest dirtiest crappiest cities are controlled by liberals.
I've heard portland and seattle are hell holes. :sarcasm:
My favorite city is Toronto, and it's safer than any large american city and very clean. It's also probably more liberal than any american city, possible exceptions to cambridge and portland.
Pookie
04-09-2008, 04:42 PM
Asheville, NC, is a very liberal city, and the tourists love it. It's clean and lovely. If anyone feels they want to dispute this, fine. I was raised there and I live close to Asheville. I go there a lot.
The diversity is refreshing! Conservatives, liberals, everyone loves it. And one of the many things agreed upon is the gorgeous mountains we're in.
So, not every "liberal" city is bad.
Purrs,
Pookie
DamnYankee
04-09-2008, 04:46 PM
Pookie,
We all get labeled whether we like it or not. It is the nature of the forum beast. We all get called names and I have had my life threatened several times, blah blah blah. I also think that many times when people post, what they are trying to say gets lost in translation. When I said, "Smoking dope are what leftist do." I think back to the nightly news of the 1970's and all the long haired maggots smoking dope and carrying their leftist placards with the latest left-wing slogans written on them. Or I think of the local "Hemp" club with their tie-dyed shirts and jeans with the ass end ate out of them walking around trying to tell people that we should grow hemp because we can make ropes out of it. Wink. Nod. Then they jump in their VW's with their left-wing bumper stickers, and drive off smoking a doob. So, when I said that, I wasn't off the mark.
"Spend first and ask questions later?" Yes, the so-called tax and spend of the left. This is another historical fact of the left. They want your money so they can give it away so they can get more votes so they can get more money so they can give it away...What are the two biggest liberals saying right now about health care. They want your money, so they can give it away...
Of course Bush spends like a drunken sailor, which is why he has managed to piss off his own people. But I refuse to dump on the guy because I think we are better off with him than we would have been with Kerry.
I have looked at this liberal/conservative political thing ever since I was a kid. I was raised by democrats. As I grew, I watched and realized the dangers of liberalism and how liberalism can suck the life out of you, the money out of your pocket, and force you to rely far too much on the gov't and not on yourself.
I can't do liberalism, it isn't me.
Pookie
04-09-2008, 04:53 PM
If you can't, then understand that some liberals are not deserving of put-downs and stereotyping.
One question: Look at all my posts. Where have I ever said anything about conservatives as you have said about liberals?
And why should I take this? And also, if it's the "nature of the forum beast" and I am in this forum, tell me why I can refrain from stereotyping and others cannot.
Purrs,
Pookie
NoMoreDems-Reps
04-09-2008, 05:06 PM
Just because you can prove Conservatives Suck does not make Liberals good !!
Both Suck very badly, in their own unique ways ! They both are contributing
to the problems we have in US politics !
So sitting there point out all the bad things about one half of the problem
while over looking the other half of the problem does nobody any good.
Thus we will continue the cycle of being screwed over by Government because
they have polarized the American people over less important issues !
(Here's your sign)
DamnYankee
04-09-2008, 05:26 PM
If you can't, then understand that some liberals are not deserving of put-downs and stereotyping.
One question: Look at all my posts. Where have I ever said anything about conservatives as you have said about liberals?
And why should I take this? And also, if it's the "nature of the forum beast" and I am in this forum, tell me why I can refrain from stereotyping and others cannot.
Purrs,
Pookie
If you want to split hairs, then why is it you automatically assume I was referring to ALL liberals and not just some liberals or a few liberals? Shame on you for stereotyping me that I somehow referred to ALL liberals.
You must be full of hatred like that to assume that I, a conservative, would call ALL liberals dopers. You ought to immediately apologize for your obvious hypocrisy on this matter.
But somehow I don't think you will:lmao:
Your okay Pookie, just a little mislead.
DamnYankee
04-09-2008, 05:28 PM
Just because you can prove Conservatives Suck does not make Liberals good !!
Both Suck very badly, in their own unique ways ! They both are contributing
to the problems we have in US politics !
So sitting there point out all the bad things about one half of the problem
while over looking the other half of the problem does nobody any good.
Thus we will continue the cycle of being screwed over by Government because
they have polarized the American people over less important issues !
(Here's your sign)
People suck in general. The world is full of sucky people.
Wndrtch
04-09-2008, 05:36 PM
Conservatives think that Uncle Sam is always right. They support misusing the military for any damn reason whatsoever!
We believe in using the military to protect our national interest, like the free flow of oil for energy. Looney Liberals won't allow Uncle Sam to drill in his own back yard so he can become energy independant, so we have to be engaged in Hell-holes like the M.E.
They also have no heart for the less fortunate.
We believe in taking care of the less fortunate, by donateing to private charities, that are much more effective and effecient at spending the money on those that are less fortunate, unlike Uncle Sam who is ineffecient, wasteful, and susceptible to corruption.
They think that if you're hungry, you should just eat whatever is handy like dirt or gravel or your own fingernails...
What's wrong with Jell-O?
We do believe in self-reliance, but if you need food, then why don't you reach out to one of the many charities we support, and ask for the help? After all, what the hell is it there for?
They are retards who hate homosexuals and Arabs.
We don't like Homosexuals that take pride in disrupting Sunday morning church service by throwing condoms at parishoners, or turning the family-oriented St. Patty's Day parade into a Adam & Eve fashion party, complete with Live Demonstrations.
We do hate people that pervert a religion of peace, into a destructive force. That many of those "people" are Arabs, is irrelevant.
But they love Israel, that shitty little country that manipulates US foreign policy and makes a killing off foreign aid.
We believe in supporting a free Democracy, that is outnumbered by a hateful idiology.
They never heard of the environment. I guess they can get their air from an oxygen bottle...
We believe the Earth's climate is a vast and complicated system, that experiences huge swings in climate change over long and short time-periods. The current observations in Global tempratures support the current cycle-shift, and man is almost helples to change it in any significant ways.
They think that sins ought to be against the law...like smoking weed.
Not this Con...."Live Free or DIE!!!"
The only thing they get right is that government shouldn't run up huge debts for the taxpayers to deal with...
LOL! WHAT! You write this, in the context of an unpopular war that is costing us Billions? I'm surprised!
NoMoreDems-Reps
04-09-2008, 07:55 PM
People suck in general. The world is full of sucky people.
Yes but People can learn! That's the hope of these types of Forums.
Even sucky people want a good government, they just aren't ?....
Smart enough, Courageous enough or Strong enough to get/demand one.
preservanation
04-10-2008, 11:12 AM
Yes but People can learn! That's the hope of these types of Forums.
Even sucky people want a good government, they just aren't ?....
Smart enough, Courageous enough or Strong enough to get/demand one.
The only good Gov is a limited Gov.
Why some want to cede their liberty to a bunch of egomaniac elites in congress is beyond me.
The push for universal health care is a perfect example of our insanity.
We would rather turn our family's wellbeing and a $300 billion industry over to the same people who have brought us the same huge deficits we complain about, destroyed our public school system, medicare, medicaid and raided our social security fund...etc.
Please look before you leap into granting the Feds more power over us...if you get what you wish for you will be sorry in the long run.
They will never give it back...power is what they seek and some are just all to willing to gleefully oblige.
Remember what happened to the children in "The Pied-Piper Of Hamlin".
Deadshot
04-10-2008, 12:10 PM
hey look, I found da blue!:)
As to Conservatives "sucking", most Conservative women I know don't, so I believe the premise is flawed.
preservanation
04-11-2008, 12:02 AM
hey look, I found da blue!:)
As to Conservatives "sucking", most Conservative women I know don't, so I believe the premise is flawed.
No conservative Women I know wouldn't give you the time of day DS, so a BJ is probably out of the question anyway.
Keep following the patchouli scent, but remember...it's probably a substitute for hygiene...so keep your head up. Unless you want to check for lice.
Sublimating
04-11-2008, 12:57 AM
Conservatives suck because:
1. They think America is always justified in using force.
2. They think all police force/
shootings are justified.
3. The are naive about racism/sexism.
4. They are disproportionately racist.
5. They can't admit when they're wrong.
6. They only recognize their contribution.
7. They are patriotic to a fault
8. They elected George Bush.
9. They feel no obligation to their fellow man.
10. They are ugly.
preservanation
04-11-2008, 01:34 AM
C'mon Sub, only 10?
I know you can do better than that.
You're not even trying...
Mayberry
04-11-2008, 01:56 AM
Conservatives suck because:
1. They think America is always justified in using force.
2. They think all police force/
shootings are justified.
3. The are naive about racism/sexism.
4. They are disproportionately racist.
5. They can't admit when they're wrong.
6. They only recognize their contribution.
7. They are patriotic to a fault
8. They elected George Bush.
9. They feel no obligation to their fellow man.
10. They are ugly.
1. Not always, only when it serves our best interests.
2. Some. Not all.
3. Not me.
4. Again, not me. I hate everybody equally :shock: (please note sarcasm here)
5. We're never wrong :dork: (there's that sarcasm again!) I do admit when I am wrong.
6. Wrong again. I recognize everyone's contributions when they are worthy of recognition.
7. I didn't know that love of country was a fault. I don't think it is.
8. He was the lesser of two evils.
9. Why am I obligated to my fellow man? I didn't ask for him to be here, and I wouldn't miss him if he was gone. That being said, I will bend over backwards to help my friends, family, and neighbors. If everyone did that, no one would need help. Just don't ask me to give money to Mr. Smith in Cleveland, I never met the guy, and someone in Cleveland could probably help him out better than I could.
10. I am beeYOOteeful!:madlaugh:
Blanket statements will get you nowhere. There are very good hearted conservatives, and freakin' evil liberals. No group consists of a majority of similar individuals. There are middle of the road libs and fringe lefties. Same for conservatives. So lighten up, eh? Also consider that a large majority of really good folks in "flyover country" are conservatives. They'd give you the shirt off their backs if you needed it, but they expect you to earn your own living because they only have so many shirts.
NoMoreDems-Reps
04-11-2008, 03:36 AM
The only good Gov is a limited Gov.
Why some want to cede their liberty to a bunch of egomaniac elites in congress is beyond me.
The push for universal health care is a perfect example of our insanity.
We would rather turn our family's wellbeing and a $300 billion industry over to the same people who have brought us the same huge deficits we complain about, destroyed our public school system, medicare, medicaid and raided our social security fund...etc.
Please look before you leap into granting the Feds more power over us...if you get what you wish for you will be sorry in the long run.
They will never give it back...power is what they seek and some are just all to willing to gleefully oblige.
Remember what happened to the children in "The Pied-Piper Of Hamlin".
Not only limited Gov. but there are Very Smart people who can make things work
MUCH better !
Imagine if "Instead" of having Business men and Lawyers as leaders we had Engineers and
scientists (of course with good common sense too). Look at History! Technology has
"GOTTEN BETTER" at and exponential rate (Moore's law ect...). During the same time
the USA / US Government has been getting Exponentially worse !
Engineer/Scientists have to solve problems in ways which not only work on paper but
which work in practice too! Your internet connection speed has not gone from 14.4KBps
to 1.5MBs because of rhetoric and lip service, but because the problems were solved !
If we could only get the same results form our elected officials, America would be so
much better off than it is now.
Sublimating
04-11-2008, 04:27 AM
1. Not always, only when it serves our best interests.
2. Some. Not all.
3. Not me.
4. Again, not me. I hate everybody equally :shock: (please note sarcasm here)
5. We're never wrong :dork: (there's that sarcasm again!) I do admit when I am wrong.
6. Wrong again. I recognize everyone's contributions when they are worthy of recognition.
7. I didn't know that love of country was a fault. I don't think it is.
8. He was the lesser of two evils.
9. Why am I obligated to my fellow man? I didn't ask for him to be here, and I wouldn't miss him if he was gone. That being said, I will bend over backwards to help my friends, family, and neighbors. If everyone did that, no one would need help. Just don't ask me to give money to Mr. Smith in Cleveland, I never met the guy, and someone in Cleveland could probably help him out better than I could.
10. I am beeYOOteeful!:madlaugh:
Blanket statements will get you nowhere. There are very good hearted conservatives, and freakin' evil liberals. No group consists of a majority of similar individuals. There are middle of the road libs and fringe lefties. Same for conservatives. So lighten up, eh? Also consider that a large majority of really good folks in "flyover country" are conservatives. They'd give you the shirt off their backs if you needed it, but they expect you to earn your own living because they only have so many shirts.
hey c,mon mayberry what's the matter you don't like my list? I know that there are human conservatives. They're not all desperately evil. Besides, I agree with most of em as long as they're talking about religion,abortion and gay rights type issues issues, once they start talking about money their IQ plummets..and you can't lie and say they aren't ugly:madlaugh:
preservanation
04-11-2008, 11:03 AM
Not only limited Gov. but there are Very Smart people who can make things work
MUCH better !
Imagine if "Instead" of having Business men and Lawyers as leaders we had Engineers and
scientists (of course with good common sense too). Look at History! Technology has
"GOTTEN BETTER" at and exponential rate (Moore's law ect...). During the same time
the USA / US Government has been getting Exponentially worse !
Engineer/Scientists have to solve problems in ways which not only work on paper but
which work in practice too! Your internet connection speed has not gone from 14.4KBps
to 1.5MBs because of rhetoric and lip service, but because the problems were solved !
If we could only get the same results form our elected officials, America would be so
much better off than it is now.The original intention was for the denizens of Washington to be local citizens and businessmen/farmers etc who would spend a term r two and go back home.
Now we have people who are nothing more than career politicians who do nothing more than try to grow their power, influence, the gov (which=their business) and getting reelected. These people have no idea how to produce or manage anything except taxation legislation and votes, yet we put them in charge of the greatest economy and nation in the world.
No wonder we're in trouble.
moses2792796
04-11-2008, 12:53 PM
What do you suggest Preservanation? Modern politics are completely exhausted and corrupt, the system we have in place isn't working, perhaps a different method is necessary, one that's worked before?
preservanation
04-11-2008, 01:36 PM
What do you suggest Preservanation? Modern politics are completely exhausted and corrupt, the system we have in place isn't working, perhaps a different method is necessary, one that's worked before?Well, as I said, I don't think the framers intended our Congress to be run by elitist career politicians, nor did they envision such a detached and apathetic electorate.
There is now a strong argument for term-limits.
Unfortunately the congress has to approve this, this would be akin to asking them to vote for their own pay to be cut. They all vote for their own pay raises (usually in the dead of night), must be nice.
There's a reason that when they do leave, they all go into the lobbying business...just more "one hand washing the other" hypocrisy.
Congress has become the epitome of the old boy's/girl's club.
They argue that to get good people running the Gov, they need to be paid huge amounts of money...BS!!!!
Look where these overpaid aholes have got us...bloated ineffective counterproductive bureaucracy which does nothing but sap our freedoms and our hard-earned money while they feather their own nests.
A KFC/ Mcdonald's manager would do a better job than half of these incompetent boobs!
They themselves have made the office more complicated than it is to ensure job security and the ability to look down their beaks at the rest of the population like we're something they just scraped off their shoe.
If any of these career politicians were asked to run anything more complicated than a lawnmower out in the real world, they would crap their diapies.
lawless168
04-11-2008, 03:27 PM
Why do you continue to stereotype us?
Uh, well read what "PatrickHenry" wrote in his opening "Why Conservatives Suck... " post...LOL, don't think you can stereotypen any worse then that if you ask me.
Carry on with the hate, this Neocon/Conservative is going to drink some beers/smoke sum motha nature and watch weeds on Showtime. I have a week off...woot
Pookie
04-11-2008, 03:27 PM
This...
We would rather turn our family's wellbeing and a $300 billion industry over to the same people who have brought us the same huge deficits we complain about, destroyed our public school system, medicare, medicaid and raided our social security fund...etc.
Who has a huge deficit? Who pushed "No child left behind," and who is spending billions on a war?
This administration is paying a lot more attention to other things than fixing stuff here at home. Homeless people, foreclosures, an economy where it's come to the point that people are getting "economic stimulus" checks.
If you can't take care of your own yard, don't go poking into your neighbor's yard.
Things need to be fixed HERE.
And New Orleans is still in a mess. Go figure.
Pookie
Pookie
04-11-2008, 03:30 PM
Uh, well read what "PatrickHenry" wrote in his opening "Why Conservatives Suck... " post...LOL, don't think you can stereotypen any worse then that if you ask me.
Carry on with the hate, this Neocon/Conservative is going to drink some beers/smoke sum motha nature and watch weeds on Showtime. I have a week off...woot
I don't hate. Why do you say that? Where have I ever said I hate anyone? Ever? Check my posts, please. Show me where I am wrong.
I'll wait for your reply.
Purrs,
Pookie
preservanation
04-11-2008, 03:37 PM
This...
We would rather turn our family's wellbeing and a $300 billion industry over to the same people who have brought us the same huge deficits we complain about, destroyed our public school system, medicare, medicaid and raided our social security fund...etc.
Who has a huge deficit? Who pushed "No child left behind," and who is spending billions on a war?
This administration is paying a lot more attention to other things than fixing stuff here at home. Homeless people, foreclosures, an economy where it's come to the point that people are getting "economic stimulus" checks.
If you can't take care of your own yard, don't go poking into your neighbor's yard.
Things need to be fixed HERE.
And New Orleans is still in a mess. Go figure.
Pookie
That was me, not lawless, Pookie.
You just made my point.
I never mentioned dems or repubs.
IMO, they are both to blame, along with the idiots who keep voting the inept high spending, big gov, liberty grabbing politicians into office.
I am not exempting anyone of this including Bush. That's why I have Never described him as a small gov conservative.
You just saw it as some sort of an attack and lashed out with Dem talking points serving to reinforce my point, and unwittingly discrediting yours!
Pookie
04-11-2008, 03:44 PM
I KNOW, Pres! I wasn't talking to you. Wake up and follow the thread, willya?
Geez.
I made a point where things need to be fixed here before we go poking in other nations.
I didn't lash out.
This is how I see things. Those are not talking points, and I was never attacked.
This is so typical. Every time I stand up for what I think, here come the nasty PMs and the accusations. I have 5 nasty ones so far.
One told me to get the fuck off the forum before I get myself banned.
Purrs,
Pookie
preservanation
04-11-2008, 03:49 PM
I KNOW, Pres! I wasn't talking to you. Wake up and follow the thread, willya?
Geez.
I made a point where things need to be fixed here before we go poking in other nations.
I didn't lash out.
This is how I see things. Those are not talking points, and I was never attacked.
This is so typical. Every time I stand up for what I think, here come the nasty PMs and the accusations. I have 5 nasty ones so far.
One told me to get the fuck off the forum before I get myself banned.
Purrs,
PookieSorry to hear it.
Must be awful.
But would you support a gov, by your own admission can't manage what they do now, taking on more responsibility?
Especially the responsibility of our nation's health and hospital/physician care?
HC is definitely a conservative/lib issue Just as I don't trust them to run that, I don't trust them to manage the climate either as they fantastically claim to be able to do.
"We're just one major tax hike on American corps away from enjoying a static environment"
Bah, what nonsense.
I can't believe there are some out there who fall for this Marxist hoax.
Pookie
04-11-2008, 04:06 PM
Yeah. thanks a lot.
I'm not talking about that health care. I'm talking about fixing the problems here at home. Thanks for the nastiness.
What is your problem with that?
Pookie
PatrickHenry
04-11-2008, 07:15 PM
Smoking dope are what leftist do. More power to them! One can only get so stupid....Allow me to introduce you to my friend Stoner:
http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?t=6788
He'll probably be back real soon to blow some weed smoke in your conservative face! :dork:
brien
04-11-2008, 08:08 PM
Conservative / Liberal these labels are meaningless. They only serve to whip up the crowd into arguing with each other rather than trying to find common ground on which to meet and settle differences.
PH there you go again, whipping up the masses..LOL
I miss the little icons like the mad laughing guy..what happened to them?
PatrickHenry
04-11-2008, 08:25 PM
Conservative / Liberal these labels are meaningless. They only serve to whip up the crowd into arguing with each other rather than trying to find common ground on which to meet and settle differences.
PH there you go again, whipping up the masses..LOL
I miss the little icons like the mad laughing guy..what happened to them?
Heh. I know...I love to make them fight each other... :dork:
Ya gotta go to the "full screen" not the quick reply for the smilies...
brien
04-11-2008, 08:50 PM
Ya gotta go to the "full screen" not the quick reply for the smilies...
Yeah but there isn't the selection below the screen that we used to have on the side of the screen on the former site. I'm not real happy with this new format. I still don't know how to wrap quote that I cut and paste. I guess I better get someone to explain it. But for now, I am leaving for the weekend. Have a safe one PH....bk
Mayberry
04-12-2008, 01:01 PM
You know, I just went through a really interesting course at work this week. I suspect that at least a few of y'all here have done it as well. It was the Meyers-Briggs personality types and team dynamics. After taking this course, I was amazed at not only all the different types, but at what makes them tick. I think a LOT of conflict is not caused so much by liberal/ conservative, but by differing personality types. For instance: I typed out as an ESTP, or Extraverted Sensing Thinking Perceiver. I tend to be people oriented, outgoing, detail oriented, based in facts, yet an easy going go with the flow type. I need information before I make a decision, and I need to process it for a while too. But not too much information, as it tends to overload me. Someone who is the polar opposite of me would be an INFJ, or an Introverted Intuitive Feeler Judger. This person is more reserved and quiet and draws their energy from within. They use their intuition more than facts to make decisions, and they wear their feelings on their sleeve. People matter more than facts in their decisions. And Judgers prefer structure: timelines, calanders, guidelines, defined processes, set limits.... So as you can see, this hypothetical person and myself have absolutely nothing in common and would have a hard time coming to an agreement on anything. I look at the facts, consider the practical implications, draw on other people's input, and come to a decision (when I feel like getting around to it :nana:). I'm also more likely to be doing all this after already having started working on whatever problem it is I am thinking about (I don't need no steenking directions!). The INFJ would take in the information and process it internally to figure out how they feel about it and how it might impact others around them, then some time later present a well thought out, planned response or product. Both types have much to offer, and naturally complement each other. But it is hard for us to communicate with each other because we are polar opposites. We don't like to use those traits that are not dominant within us. We need other people with more traits in common with us to "translate" for us. Personally, I don't use intuition but as a last resort. I don't consider human impact but at the very end, if at all. I am based in fact and practicality, it is my nature. So now you might see why I respond the way I do to some things, and where some of my beliefs and values come from.
Pookie
04-12-2008, 03:24 PM
I'd be afraid to find out what type I am. It would probably be something scary like a closet terrorist or a nun.
Yikes!
Purrs,
Pookie
Scribbler1
04-12-2008, 05:04 PM
This is so typical. Every time I stand up for what I think, here come the nasty PMs and the accusations. I have 5 nasty ones so far.
One told me to get the fuck off the forum before I get myself banned.
Purrs,
PookieI believe that violates the rules here (#15 I believe) and you should report every single one of these assholes. Only immature cowards hide behind PMs to attack another poster.
Mods, please take note of this. If a rule change to fix this is in order I support it.
Pookie
04-12-2008, 05:26 PM
I nail them. I'm a hell of a lot nastier answering nasty PMs than I am on the boards. What some folks don't realize is that I can hold my own and their harassment is met with being shut up in a hurry.
Yeah! I support a rule change too.
Purrs,
Pookie
Mayberry
04-12-2008, 05:50 PM
I nail them. I'm a hell of a lot nastier answering nasty PMs than I am on the boards. What some folks don't realize is that I can hold my own and their harassment is met with being shut up in a hurry.
Yeah! I support a rule change too.
Purrs,
Pookie Sick 'em Tiger, er, Kitty. :thumbsup:
Scribbler1
04-12-2008, 07:08 PM
I nail them. I'm a hell of a lot nastier answering nasty PMs than I am on the boards. What some folks don't realize is that I can hold my own and their harassment is met with being shut up in a hurry.
Yeah! I support a rule change too.
Purrs,
PookieI'm sure you're like a velvet covered brick. Nice and soft but they hurt like hell when you get hit with 'em.
But the cowards who SEND these PMs should be removed from this, and any other forum. If you don't report them they can demonstrate their immature nastiness with other members, some of which may not have your moxie.
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