McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam

[ViolaLee]

Rod Parsley is McCain's spirtual advisor. Several other megachurch pastors have endorced McCain including John Hagee who said the Catholic Church is the great whore and a cult. McCain distanced himself from those remarks and said he doesn't agree. But he doesn't do the same for Rod Parsley. He has no comment on Parsley's hate speech about Islam and that Christians need to obliterate Islam.

This is the same kind of hateful rhetoric the terrorists use about Christianity.

Parsley - Terrorists = same hate spreading ignorance.

But he's McCain's spiritual advisor.

Where do you think that will take is with a McCain presidency? No wonder McCain says there will be more wars.

Parsley claims that Islam is an "anti-Christ religion" predicated on "deception." The Muslim prophet Muhammad, he writes, "received revelations from demons and not from the true God." And he emphasizes this point: "Allah was a demon spirit." Parsley does not differentiate between violent Islamic extremists and other followers of the religion:

There are some, of course, who will say that the violence I cite is the exception and not the rule. I beg to differ. I will counter, respectfully, that what some call "extremists" are instead mainstream believers who are drawing from the well at the very heart of Islam.

The spirit of Islam, he maintains, is one of hostility. He asserts that the religion "inspired" the 9/11 attacks. He bemoans the fact that in the years after 9/11, 34,000 Americans "have become Muslim" and that there are "some 1,209 mosques" in America. Islam, he declares, is a "faith that fully intends to conquer the world" through violence. The United States, he insists, "has historically understood herself as a bastion against Islam," but "history is crashing in upon us."

At the end of his chapter on Islam, Parsley asks, "Are we a Christian nation? I say yes." Without specifying what actions should be taken to eradicate the religion, he essentially calls for a new crusade.

Parsley, who refers to himself as a "Christocrat," is no stranger to controversy. In 2007, the grassroots organization he founded, the Center for Moral Clarity, called for prosecuting people who commit adultery. In January, he compared Planned Parenthood to Nazis. In the past Parsley's church has been accused of engaging in pro-Republican partisan activities in violation of its tax-exempt status.

Why would McCain court Parsley? He has long had trouble figuring out how to deal with Christian fundamentalists, an important bloc for the Republican Party. During his 2000 presidential bid, he referred to Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell as "agents of intolerance." But six years later, as he readied himself for another White House run, McCain repudiated that remark. More recently, his campaign hit a rough patch when he accepted the endorsement of the Reverend John Hagee, a Texas televangelist who has called the Catholic Church "the great whore" and a "false cult system." After the Catholic League protested and called on McCain to renounce Hagee's support, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee praised Hagee's spiritual leadership and support of Israel and said that "when [Hagee] endorses me, it does not mean that I embrace everything that he stands for or believes in." After being further criticized for his Hagee connection, McCain backed off slightly, saying, "I repudiate any comments that are made, including Pastor Hagee's, if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics." But McCain did not renounce Hagee's endorsement.

McCain's relationship with Parsley is politically significant. In 2004, Parsley's church was credited with driving Christian fundamentalist voters to the polls for George W. Bush. With Ohio expected to again be a decisive state in the presidential contest, Parsley's World Harvest Church and an affiliated entity called Reformation Ohio, which registers voters, could be important players within this battleground state. Considering that the Ohio Republican Party has been decimated by various political scandals and that a popular Democrat, Ted Strickland, is now the state's governor, McCain and the Republicans will need all the help they can get in the Buckeye State this fall. It's a real question: Can McCain win the presidency without Parsley?

The McCain campaign did not respond to a request for comment regarding Parsley and his anti-Islam writings. Parsley did not return a call seeking comment.

"The last thing I want to be is another screaming voice moving people to extremes and provoking them to folly in the name of patriotism," Parsley writes in Silent No More. Provoking people to holy war is another matter. About that, McCain so far is silent.

McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam (http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html)

[AlanC]

And the part of this that shows that this man is McCain's spiritual advisor is what?

Did McCain ever attend this man's church? Sit in pews and listen to the rhetoric for years? Did this man marry John McCain? Baptize his children? Was this man part of McCain's announcement to seek the presidency? Did McCain write a book on how this man has inspired him?

Or is this simply an endorsement from someone active in Ohio politics?

There is a world of difference between calling a man "a spiritual advisor" as part of campaign rhetoric and someone calling a man "my spiritual advisor and friend for 20 years."

[ViolaLee]

McCain sought out his endorsement. McCain doesn't distance himself from any of his outlandish beliefs. McCain doesn't say he disagrees with any of it, as Obama does.

Meanwhile, McCain campaigned yesterday in Cincinnati, where he appeared with the Rev. Rod Parsley of World Harvest Church of Columbus. McCain called Parsley a "spiritual guide," while Parsley later labeled McCain a "strong, true, consistent conservative."

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/02/27/GOP27.ART_ART_02-27-08_A1_IS9FKJU.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101

Check him out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFr59VC50tY

[MrHappy]

Pastor Wright preached hate towards America, while Pastor Parsley preached hate towards America's enemies. At least as Parsley believed.

Big difference.

[Elrathin]

Pastor Wright preached hate towards America, while Pastor Parsley preached hate towards America's enemies. At least as Parsley believed.

Big difference.


The Catholic church is an an enemy to America? Wow, where do you base that?

[micfranklin]

Pastor Wright preached hate towards America, while Pastor Parsley preached hate towards America's enemies. At least as Parsley believed.

Big difference.


"Destroy Islam" is a pretty broad statement, not just America's enemies, ALL of Islam is what he is implying.

[apdst]

Why can't the Libbos lump Parsley and Wright into the same pile?

[AnnEsthesia]

What exact is a Libbo?

[Elrathin]

Why can't the Libbos lump Parsley and Wright into the same pile?


I already have, what's your point?

[micfranklin]

Parsley and Wright are two pastors who need to rethink what "religion" they're preaching about. In both cases, neither McCain nor Obama is responsible for what they say.

[MrHappy]

Pastor Wright preached hate towards America, while Pastor Parsley preached hate towards America's enemies. At least as Parsley believed.

Big difference.


The Catholic church is an an enemy to America? Wow, where do you base that?

Allow me to simplify.

1. Obama's preacher hates and attacks America.

2. McCains' preacher loves and defends America.

3. I made no comments regarding the validity of either preacher's discourse.

Get it?

[Elrathin]

Nope I see nothing about his preacher hating America, only the way it is run.

[BoogyMan]

What exact is a Libbo?


A breakfast cereal aimed at markets in liberal areas? :D

[MrHappy]

Nope I see nothing about his preacher hating America, only the way it is run.

Umm no, the words were, "Goddamn America!" Not, "Goddamn the way America is run!"

[Elrathin]

Nope I see nothing about his preacher hating America, only the way it is run.

Umm no, the words were, "Goddamn America!" Not, "Goddamn the way America is run!"


If you really believe he hates the entire America, I have a bridge to sell you in Iraq.

If you read the entire sermon, you will EASILY see he is talking about the way America is run. But I guess you are only interested in sound bites right?

[Mia]

Nope I see nothing about his preacher hating America, only the way it is run.

Umm no, the words were, "Goddamn America!" Not, "Goddamn the way America is run!"




Come on, it's inferred. Saying it the other way is too cumbersome in the context.

[Mia]

Well, it's true Islam seeks to conquer the world, they are just not in a tenable position to do it right now.

Christians say we don't seek the same, but then say US is a Christian nation, and the US is 'spreading freedom and democracy'.....

It's all the same.

[MrHappy]

Come on, it's inferred. Saying it the other way is too cumbersome in the context.

You mean implied. And no, the words and tone of delivery were clear.

[Elrathin]

Come on, it's inferred. Saying it the other way is too cumbersome in the context.

You mean implied. And no, the words and tone of delivery were clear.


Well shit, Obama has done it now. He has made sure that anti-Obama person won't vote for him.

Others however look beyond the little sound bite you have provided and actually look to reality and the context in which it was said.

Enjoy and cheers on your choice to not vote for a candidate you would have never voted for anyway lol.

[Mia]

Come on, it's inferred. Saying it the other way is too cumbersome in the context.

You mean implied. And no, the words and tone of delivery were clear.



Excuse me, we can infer from the context that he clearly was talking about what is happening in America right now.

Or did you not listen to anything more than the part you wanted to hear?

[Mia]

Come on, it's inferred. Saying it the other way is too cumbersome in the context.

You mean implied. And no, the words and tone of delivery were clear.


Well sh1t, Obama has done it now. He has made sure that anti-Obama person won't vote for him.

Others however look beyond the little sound bite you have provided and actually look to reality and the context in which it was said.

Enjoy and cheers on your choice to not vote for a candidate you would have never voted for anyway lol.




Well, hey, at least he got the attention off the Muslim thing - good diversion. He can easily separate himself from the minister, and then wash his hands of both 'scandals' :thumbsup:

[Osborn F. Enready]

McCains spiritual advisor.....

Here is a pic:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k63/osbornfenready/McCainsspiritualadvisor.jpg

[Tsky]

I read somewhere that McCain clearly referred to him as 'my spiritual advisor.' I also read that McCain denounced Hagee or Parsley, or both, on March 10th. No wonder he suggested we move on past the Wright controversy. I'm willing to bet big bucks that McCain will cross land and sea to keep the Wright controversy from coming up in the GE, for obvious reasons...

But I do look forward to Obama to bring it up...Obama has already addressed his controversy...now it's McCain's turn.

[Wndrtch]

If you really believe he hates the entire America, I have a bridge to sell you in Iraq.

He doesn't hate ALL of America, just the White parts.

But I guess you are only interested in sound bites right?

We're left with no choice. Sound bite are all that the Dems are offering this year.

[Tsky]

If you really believe he hates the entire America, I have a bridge to sell you in Iraq.

He doesn't hate ALL of America, just the White parts.

But I guess you are only interested in sound bites right?

We're left with no choice. Sound bite are all that the Dems are offering this year.


Wright hates white America so much that he went and prayed over Bill Clinton's white butt. Oh wait, Bill Clinton was 'the first black President' so I take that back. My bad. Carry on.

[AnnEsthesia]

What exact is a Libbo?


A breakfast cereal aimed at markets in liberal areas? :D


Oh and here I thought it was something phallic shaped that Conservatives loved to suck on... who knew?

[Mia]

SIGH, hating un-American things, as was the focus of the speech (for anyone who bothered to listen) does not = hating America, or even 'White America'.

[Buck Laser]

I read somewhere that McCain clearly referred to him as 'my spiritual advisor.' I also read that McCain denounced Hagee or Parsley, or both, on March 10th. No wonder he suggested we move on past the Wright controversy. I'm willing to bet big bucks that McCain will cross land and sea to keep the Wright controversy from coming up in the GE, for obvious reasons...

But I do look forward to Obama to bring it up...Obama has already addressed his controversy...now it's McCain's turn.

Has Obama really attacked anyone the way he's been attacked? I think I remember at least one attacker saying guilt by association should be investigated...like because Pastor Wright said an admiring word or two about Farrakhan automatically makes Farrakhan Obama's buddy. Or like saying, as one regular poster does, "Osama wants Obama," or words to that effect.

No, Obama is a better human being than most of his enemies. That's one of the reasons he's winning so many supporters.

[Mia]

I'd like someone to explain exactly how it is that a vote for Obama is a vote for Osama.

[Osborn F. Enready]

I would like someone to explain to me how a vote for ANY of the major parties candiedates (Obama, Clinton, McCain) is a vote for individual rights, constitutional law, or strengthening our nations divides?

[nevadamedic]

Rod Parsley is McCain's spirtual advisor. Several other megachurch pastors have endorced McCain including John Hagee who said the Catholic Church is the great whore and a cult. McCain distanced himself from those remarks and said he doesn't agree. But he doesn't do the same for Rod Parsley. He has no comment on Parsley's hate speech about Islam and that Christians need to obliterate Islam.

This is the same kind of hateful rhetoric the terrorists use about Christianity.

Parsley - Terrorists = same hate spreading ignorance.

But he's McCain's spiritual advisor.

Where do you think that will take is with a McCain presidency? No wonder McCain says there will be more wars.

Parsley claims that Islam is an "anti-Christ religion" predicated on "deception." The Muslim prophet Muhammad, he writes, "received revelations from demons and not from the true God." And he emphasizes this point: "Allah was a demon spirit." Parsley does not differentiate between violent Islamic extremists and other followers of the religion:

There are some, of course, who will say that the violence I cite is the exception and not the rule. I beg to differ. I will counter, respectfully, that what some call "extremists" are instead mainstream believers who are drawing from the well at the very heart of Islam.

The spirit of Islam, he maintains, is one of hostility. He asserts that the religion "inspired" the 9/11 attacks. He bemoans the fact that in the years after 9/11, 34,000 Americans "have become Muslim" and that there are "some 1,209 mosques" in America. Islam, he declares, is a "faith that fully intends to conquer the world" through violence. The United States, he insists, "has historically understood herself as a bastion against Islam," but "history is crashing in upon us."

At the end of his chapter on Islam, Parsley asks, "Are we a Christian nation? I say yes." Without specifying what actions should be taken to eradicate the religion, he essentially calls for a new crusade.

Parsley, who refers to himself as a "Christocrat," is no stranger to controversy. In 2007, the grassroots organization he founded, the Center for Moral Clarity, called for prosecuting people who commit adultery. In January, he compared Planned Parenthood to Nazis. In the past Parsley's church has been accused of engaging in pro-Republican partisan activities in violation of its tax-exempt status.

Why would McCain court Parsley? He has long had trouble figuring out how to deal with Christian fundamentalists, an important bloc for the Republican Party. During his 2000 presidential bid, he referred to Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell as "agents of intolerance." But six years later, as he readied himself for another White House run, McCain repudiated that remark. More recently, his campaign hit a rough patch when he accepted the endorsement of the Reverend John Hagee, a Texas televangelist who has called the Catholic Church "the great whore" and a "false cult system." After the Catholic League protested and called on McCain to renounce Hagee's support, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee praised Hagee's spiritual leadership and support of Israel and said that "when [Hagee] endorses me, it does not mean that I embrace everything that he stands for or believes in." After being further criticized for his Hagee connection, McCain backed off slightly, saying, "I repudiate any comments that are made, including Pastor Hagee's, if they are anti-Catholic or offensive to Catholics." But McCain did not renounce Hagee's endorsement.

McCain's relationship with Parsley is politically significant. In 2004, Parsley's church was credited with driving Christian fundamentalist voters to the polls for George W. Bush. With Ohio expected to again be a decisive state in the presidential contest, Parsley's World Harvest Church and an affiliated entity called Reformation Ohio, which registers voters, could be important players within this battleground state. Considering that the Ohio Republican Party has been decimated by various political scandals and that a popular Democrat, Ted Strickland, is now the state's governor, McCain and the Republicans will need all the help they can get in the Buckeye State this fall. It's a real question: Can McCain win the presidency without Parsley?

The McCain campaign did not respond to a request for comment regarding Parsley and his anti-Islam writings. Parsley did not return a call seeking comment.

"The last thing I want to be is another screaming voice moving people to extremes and provoking them to folly in the name of patriotism," Parsley writes in Silent No More. Provoking people to holy war is another matter. About that, McCain so far is silent.

McCain's Spiritual Guide: Destroy Islam (http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html)


He is right about Islam.

[Osborn F. Enready]

Nevadamedic said:
He is right about Islam.

Proof for such allegations?

[nevadamedic]

Nevadamedic said:
He is right about Islam.

Proof for such allegations?


9/11, USS Cole, US Embassy, other terrorist attacks, Saddam Hussein, Iran. How they treat women. How they kill eachother because they cant agree. How they kill Christians because they are a different religion. That is all the proof I need.

[Osborn F. Enready]

Nevadamedic said:
9/11, USS Cole, US Embassy, other terrorist attacks, Saddam Hussein, Iran. How they treat women. How they kill eachother because they cant agree. How they kill Christians because they are a different religion. That is all the proof I need.

Never mind the atrocities that equal or rival those mentioned above, against Islamic and other religions by other governments or religions?

Your simplistic view leads to an inaccurate and vague, tunnel-vision of the world my friend. :unreal:

[Mia]

Nevadamedic said:
He is right about Islam.

Proof for such allegations?


9/11, USS Cole, US Embassy, other terrorist attacks, Saddam Hussein, Iran. How they treat women. How they kill eachother because they cant agree. How they kill Christians because they are a different religion. That is all the proof I need.




What does any of that have to do with Obama?

[Mia]

Nevadamedic said:
9/11, USS Cole, US Embassy, other terrorist attacks, Saddam Hussein, Iran. How they treat women. How they kill eachother because they cant agree. How they kill Christians because they are a different religion. That is all the proof I need.

Never mind the atrocities that equal or rival those mentioned above, against Islamic and other religions by other governments or religions?

Your simplistic view leads to an inaccurate and vague, tunnel-vision of the world my friend. :unreal:




Don't be silly, Os. When we kill people it's for freedom and democracy - it's all good! :thumbsup:

[Tsky]

I read somewhere that McCain clearly referred to him as 'my spiritual advisor.' I also read that McCain denounced Hagee or Parsley, or both, on March 10th. No wonder he suggested we move on past the Wright controversy. I'm willing to bet big bucks that McCain will cross land and sea to keep the Wright controversy from coming up in the GE, for obvious reasons...

But I do look forward to Obama to bring it up...Obama has already addressed his controversy...now it's McCain's turn.

Has Obama really attacked anyone the way he's been attacked? I think I remember at least one attacker saying guilt by association should be investigated...like because Pastor Wright said an admiring word or two about Farrakhan automatically makes Farrakhan Obama's buddy. Or like saying, as one regular poster does, "Osama wants Obama," or words to that effect.

No, Obama is a better human being than most of his enemies. That's one of the reasons he's winning so many supporters.


You're right Buck but let's be honest here, most all of the candidates have been speaking through their surrogates...except Hillary, she's not too bright...she hurls insults on her own.

What I am saying is that there is no way McCain will use the Wright controversy in the GE to mark Obama as unelectable without also having to answer for the actions of his 'spiritual advisor.' Since Obama was smart enough to let this come out in the primaries (and I absolutely believe he wanted it to come out) he has already weathered his storm and McCain or his surrogates bringing it up in the GE will seem repetitive, unfair and irrelevant, on the other hand, it will open up plenty of questions about McCain's associations because to date, his associationsi with Hagee are not well known.

[DamnYankee]

You see, McCain is just as bad as the other two liberals.

[Elrathin]

9/11, USS Cole, US Embassy, other terrorist attacks, Saddam Hussein, Iran. How they treat women. How they kill eachother because they cant agree. How they kill Christians because they are a different religion. That is all the proof I need.

Is this the point we have to remind you, yet again, that those attacks represented an very small portion of Islam?