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December
03-20-2008, 12:49 AM
It's going to be like in the Soviet Union pretty soon.
QUOTE:
North American Army created without OK by Congress
U.S., Canada military ink deal to fight domestic emergencies
In a ceremony that received virtually no attention in the American media, the United States and Canada signed a military agreement Feb. 14 allowing the armed forces from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a domestic civil emergency, even one that does not involve a cross-border crisis.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57228
Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661
nevadamedic
03-20-2008, 01:01 AM
It's going to be like in the Soviet Union pretty soon.
QUOTE:
North American Army created without OK by Congress
U.S., Canada military ink deal to fight domestic emergencies
In a ceremony that received virtually no attention in the American media, the United States and Canada signed a military agreement Feb. 14 allowing the armed forces from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a domestic civil emergency, even one that does not involve a cross-border crisis.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57228
Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661
You realize that kook Ron Paul is out of the race right?
So when we do overthrow our gubmint..... we'll be fightin' Canucks too, eh?
(see my updated sig, below, eh...)
You realize that kook Ron Paul is out of the race right?
Do you realize cheneybush has made this arrangement, outside the Constitution, to maintain power in spite of the will of the people? eh?
Mayberry
03-20-2008, 02:15 AM
(see my updated sig, below, eh...) Interesting that "Honest Abe" is pictured there. Is that his quote? He seemed to be the one fighting the hardest against the ones who were trying to "overthrow it". A bit hypocritical, don't you think? Eh? :lmao:
apdst
03-20-2008, 03:00 AM
we'll be fightin' Canucks too, eh?
Won't be much of a fight, I'm sure.
Interesting that "Honest Abe" is pictured there. Is that his quote? He seemed to be the one fighting the hardest against the ones who were trying to "overthrow it". A bit hypocritical, don't you think? Eh?
Yeah, no kiddin'.
(see my updated sig, below, eh...) Interesting that "Honest Abe" is pictured there. Is that his quote? He seemed to be the one fighting the hardest against the ones who were trying to "overthrow it". A bit hypocritical, don't you think? Eh? :lmao:
Yes thats his quote, link (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/abrahamlin101160.html)
Well, I for one am sure as hell glad the North won. And happy for the Emancipation of the slaves.
Abe Lincoln also said:
Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.
The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of liberty.
I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.
You will never hear cheneybush say these sorts of things.....
he has his oath to the elite, eh?
apdst
03-20-2008, 04:23 AM
Lincoln also said, "If I can preserve the union by preserving slavery, I shall preserve it. If I can preserve the union by abolishing slavery, I shall abolish it. I shall preserve the union"
Thank God it turned out the way it did.
It helped make our Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights more Honest.
Abe also said:
"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy."
African Americans were counted as less than one human being. Only 3/5 of a person. Thats just crap. And redneck retards can burn in hell for saying otherwise.
edit to add:
and when it came time to vote, they were LESS than 3/5 of a human... more like a farm implement.
apdst
03-20-2008, 05:30 AM
It helped make our Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights more Honest.
Then we got Affirmative Action to tip the scale the wrong way, again.
nevadamedic
03-20-2008, 05:44 AM
You realize that kook Ron Paul is out of the race right?
Do you realize cheneybush has made this arrangement, outside the Constitution, to maintain power in spite of the will of the people? eh?
That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard.
It wasnt until after I posted that, that I realized you werent even talking about the topic. I just assumed one of the links had a statement by Ron Paul....but no, you were just coming off the wall with that comment. Looks like YOU are the idiotic one. Not me.
But if you look at what I said....theres nothing even subtle about what he is doing!
This is BLATANTLY unConstitutional!!
Posse Comitatus forbids the deployment of US Military forces against American Citizens. I dont see how Congress would permit that job to be outsourced to a foreign sovereign. That is why it wasnt submitted like any other treaty.
This is just another treason by your war criminal in chief.
Posse Comitatus Act
From Wikipedia, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act)
The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the United States National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act.
The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement.
Posse Comitatus forbids the deployment of US Military forces against American Citizens.
DANG, look at who posted the article and look at his source. worldnetdaily or whatever it is. It's crap.
A little research would reveal why this is just more mindless trolling bullshit from December.
I haven't looked into it, but a million dollars says this "story" is ballooned around some kind of mundane and routine MOA between the Canadian military and the US military.
Absolutely nothing to see here.
Elrathin
03-20-2008, 03:03 PM
So are you saying affirmitive action was never needed apdst? You think the black worker during the time it was created was getting a fair shake at jobs and wages?
I am one of the people that proposes it be abolished now, but even I can see that it was needed at the start.
Osborn F. Enready
03-20-2008, 03:18 PM
nevadamedic said:
You realize that kook Ron Paul is out of the race right?
Too bad, he was the only one in the race addressing the FACTS.
December
03-20-2008, 03:21 PM
Absolutely nothing to see here.
Well, than don't post in this thread again.
Well, than don't post in this thread again.
You're not the boss of me.
apdst
03-20-2008, 11:43 PM
Posse Comitatus forbids the deployment of US Military forces against American Citizens.
Posse Comitatus forbids federal troops to be deployed against American citizens.
Let's see what the Canadians have to say. (http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=403d90d6-7a61-41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d&k=14984)
Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies
David Pugliese , Canwest News Service
Published: Friday, February 22, 2008
Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the
militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders
during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has
kept silent on the deal.
Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new
agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.
The U.S. military's Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with
a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian
Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows
the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation
during a civil emergency.
The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada
and the right wing in the U.S.
The left-leaning Council of Canadians, which is campaigning against what it
calls the increasing integration of the U.S. and Canadian militaries, is
raising concerns about the deal.
"It's kind of a trend when it comes to issues of Canada-U.S. relations and
contentious issues like military integration. We see that this government is
reluctant to disclose information to Canadians that is readily available on
American and Mexican websites," said Stuart Trew, a researcher with the
Council of Canadians.
Trew said there is potential for the agreement to militarize civilian
responses to emergency incidents. He noted that work is also underway for
the two nations to put in place a joint plan to protect common
infrastructure such as roadways and oil pipelines.
"Are we going to see (U.S.) troops on our soil for minor potential threats
to a pipeline or a road?" he asked.
Trew also noted the U.S. military does not allow its soldiers to operate
under foreign command so there are questions about who controls American
forces if they are requested for service in Canada. "We don't know the
answers because the government doesn't want to even announce the plan," he
said.
But Canada Command spokesman Commander David Scanlon said it will be up to
civilian authorities in both countries on whether military assistance is
requested or even used.
He said the agreement is "benign" and simply sets the stage for
military-to-military co-operation if the governments approve.
"But there's no agreement to allow troops to come in," he said. "It
facilitates planning and co-ordination between the two militaries. The
'allow' piece is entirely up to the two governments."
If U.S. forces were to come into Canada they would be under tactical control
of the Canadian Forces but still under the command of the U.S. military,
Scanlon added.
[News of the deal, and the allegation it was kept secret in Canada, is
already making the rounds on left-wing blogs and Internet sites as an
example of the dangers of the growing integration between the two
militaries.
On right-wing blogs in the U.S. it is being used as evidence of a plan for a
"North American union" where foreign troops, not bound by U.S. laws, could
be used by the American federal government to override local authorities.
"Co-operative militaries on Home Soil!" notes one website. "The next time
your town has a 'national emergency,' don't be surprised if Canadian
soldiers respond. And remember - Canadian military aren't bound by posse
comitatus."
Posse comitatus is a U.S. law that prohibits the use of federal troops from
conducting law enforcement duties on domestic soil unless approved by
Congress.
Scanlon said there was no intent to keep the agreement secret on the
Canadian side of the border. He noted it will be reported on in the Canadian
Forces newspaper next week and that publication will be put on the Internet.
Scanlon said the actual agreement hasn't been released to the public as that
requires approval from both nations. That decision has not yet been taken,
he added.
Mayberry
03-21-2008, 12:30 AM
Dammit Lily! I keep wanting to swat that bug! :D
December
03-21-2008, 12:44 AM
Let's see what the Canadians have to say. (http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=403d90d6-7a61-41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d&k=14984)
"Are we going to see (U.S.) troops on our soil for minor potential threats to a pipeline or a road?" he asked.
Trew also noted the U.S. military does not allow its soldiers to operate
under foreign command so there are questions about who controls American forces if they are requested for service in Canada. "We don't know the answers because the government doesn't want to even announce the plan," he said.
Well, they don't want people to know what is going on.... They actually call it "Democracy" in the USA and Canada....
What a joke!
Dammit Lily! I keep wanting to swat that bug! :D
I love that bug. Dang gave it to me. I was going to have a name that bug contest, since it seems the thing to do.........but either Pat or Buck said to just name him (yes I checked, it is a him) SPLAT........and I kinda like that.:D
Well, they don't want people to know what is going on.... They actually call it "Democracy" in the USA and Canada....
What a joke!
December......I tried to help you out.......I even underlined the important parts.
December
03-21-2008, 06:15 PM
So, Lily, do you agree that they are hiding their plans from American people?
Do you agree that they are secretly planning to create one army and that the Canadian troops can be deployed to american cites?
So, Lily, do you agree that they are hiding their plans from American people?
Do you agree that they are secretly planning to create one army and that the Canadian troops can be deployed to american cites?
Where are you from December?
Because, you either have never spent any time in the US or you're completely delusional.
The American people would never, under any circumstance, stand for a foreign force exerting authority on the streets of the US.
These types of agreements are common place among many and various agencies: MOA, memorandum of agreement , MOU, memorandum of understanding.
One of the reasons agencies make these agreements is to cooperate with one another during emergencies or to agree to work together where jurisdictional boundaries overlap.
I see no reason why the Canadian Military and the US Military would not have similar types of agreements. I'm sure they have many such agreements. It only makes sense.
For you to try and suggest that this amounts to the secret formation of one military force is completely ridiculous.
I don't understand why democracyforums does not move the majority of your threads to the conspiracy theory forum.
So, Lily, do you agree that they are hiding their plans from American people?
Do you agree that they are secretly planning to create one army and that the Canadian troops can be deployed to american cites?
December.......I think it's obvious that I don't agree, since I posted an article that states what you are trying to say is fact, is actually a rumor on blog sites.
Nothing has been signed, nothing will be signed and if I'm not mistaken, the Unted States and Canada are allies.......so I'm sure if there were a National emmergency, both countries would help each other out.
December
03-22-2008, 01:15 AM
December.......I think it's obvious that I don't agree, since I posted an article that states what you are trying to say is fact, is actually a rumor on blog sites.
You didn't express your opinion, you just copied ans pasted the whole article. So how can one understand what you think?...
Nothing has been signed....
Did you actually read the article you posted?
Here's a quote:
The U.S. military's Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.
So.... It is in plain English - The U.S. military's Northern Command publicized the agreement"...
Who signed the plan? The plan was signed by Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais.
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