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4Reaganomics
03-13-2008, 07:56 PM
The Real Barack Obama

Barack Hussein Obama Jr. has become a leading candidate for the Democratic party nomination for the position of President of the United States of America. There has been much speculation issued into what Barack Obama’s history truly declares and to what the man truly stand for. This brief post on DemocracyForums will seek to clarify Barack Obama to the users of the forum, as well as to the American people.

Section 1: Honesty “A lie has speed, but truth has endurance. ~Edgar J. Mohn”
I felt it appropriate to see a man’s true character by first defining his credibility. This short section will serve as an intro into Barack Hussein Obama Jr. and his deceptive tactics towards the American people.

Barack Obama has not been an honest man with the American public. To see some of these lies a list of ten fabrications has been compiled.
http://www.gop.com/media/PDFs/040907Research3.pdf

Another Lie: My Father Grew up herding goats
The Truth: Obama’s grandfather was a wealthy farmer and his father was a fortunate child who was able to pursue Ph.D. studies at Harvard University.

Andy Martin and others write that Obama’s book should taken off of the press due to its lies in reference to the situation. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1189687/posts


There are other lies that have been exposed, but due to a lack of time at this point, I am leaving this section as is. I feel it has provided sufficient background into the man and his deceptiveness.

Section 2: Support

Barack Obama has been supported by terrorists and bigots. His most prominent supporters in both categories are William Ayers and Louis Farrakhan.

Obama’s campaign claimed that Obama and William Ayers are “friendly”. The following article from the source of information for the left will give insight into the man that Barack Obama is “friendly” with.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B 63


Obama has been supported by bigot Louis Farrakhan. Farrakhan has said "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better,"

Farrakhan has also referred to he Jewish ethnicity as “bacteria” among many other racist quotes. A more in depth look into Louis Farrkhan can easily be found through searches.

He has been also supported by Iranian officials, and has received campaign donations from others associated with terror.

Section 3: Anti-Semitism

Obama has taken an extremely “ANTI-ISRAEL and PRO-PALESTINE” voting record during his time in the Senate. His acts against Jews , and his support by those who hate Jews, have lead people to believe that Jews and Israel are in trouble if he takes office.

The following are his actions in regards to this

Supports terror organization with funding that outright claimed hatred for Jews
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57231

He shares the support of fellow Anti-Semites Al Sharpton, and Louis Farrakhan.

More Anti-Jewish actions and support from Anti-Semites can be easily found through a quick search.

Section 4 History:

Obama spend the majority of his early life in Hawaii and Jakarta, Indonesia. He went to school in Indonesia for four years as a child where wahabism was wide spread.

Wahhabism is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi , many Jihadists had a similar upbringing to Obama, for they too were subjected to Wahhabism.

Obama’s father was a radical muslim from Kenya. His step father was a radical muslim Indonesian.

A further in depth look into Obama’s muslim upbringing can be seen here, as well as on Wikipedia and many other popular sites. http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm

Section 5 Church:

Obama’s church supports strictly a “Black Values System” and has supported and given awards to once again, the racist bigot LOUIS FARRAKHAN.

http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama_wright_farrakhan/2008/01/14/64332.html
A video of his pastor and interview with conservative commentator Sean Hannity can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNTGRL0OJWQ

Section 6: Wife
Obama’s wife has claimed that this is the first time that she was “really proud” of her country. In her thesis at Princeton she also reference a “White Oppressor”.

Sources: all major news organization have run these stories, and they are easy to find.

Now you have seen a background into Barack Obama, here are his stances as known. These are positions and assertions that you should be very aware of before voting for this man.

Positions and Facts

- Barack Obama wants to surrender Iraq and allow Al-Qaeda in Iraq to take over the country. He plans to pull American forces out by 2009 and has claimed that he would go back to Iraq if terrori[/size]sts were present in the future. It is ironic that there are currently terrorists in Iraq called “Al-Qaeda in Iraq”
- Barack Obama wants to raise taxes overall. He has supported fixing the country’s budgeting problem as well as its social security funding problem by simply raising taxes. He supports the death tax and wants to raise capital gain taxes as well as many individuals’ income tax. Obama has supported ending the Bush tax cuts, which lead to decreases in taxes paid in every single income or married income bracket from 30K (single individual) all of the way up the ladder.
- Barack Obama is supported by a racist bigot named Louis Farrakhan
- Barack Obama is friendly with an admitted non-remorseful terrorist named William Ayers
- Obama has a very Pro-Palestine and Anti-Israel voting record
- Obama wants to revise NAFTA and insert more protectionism in America
- Obama wants to instill Universal Healthcare making those who produce more subject to the same healthcare as those who do not produce.
- Obama is against the Patriot Act and the use of many terrorist defense tools that have ensured the American people safety since 9/11.
- Barack Obama has proposed “climate change” actions, that will be paid for while we are operating at a 9.5 trillion dollar deficit.
- Obama sees marriage as being capable of being defined by a MAN and a MAN, yet claims to be Christian. Many Christian officials consider such a policy against the church of Christianity to warrant someone not actually truly being Christian.
- Obama is the most inexperienced of the three candidates remaining.
- Obama has vowed to “Change” things
- Obama transcends race
- Obama has been voted the most liberal senator, but will be bi-partisan in the way he does things.
- Obama’s first name Barack means “Blessed” in Arabic
- Obama has repetitively voted “PRESENT” on bills in the senate that would affect his future political career. This is very interesting…see link http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/the_everpresent_obama.html

There you have it, I have taken a half an hour of time to outline some of Obama’s beliefs. This is by no means Obama in his entirety, there is much more Muslim, much more Socialist, and much more Anti-Semitism that has not been listed. I hope you take the threat of this man seriously, because I certainly do.

penmyst
03-19-2008, 11:46 PM
Sadly, we need to condense this all down to a one-liner that can be put on a bumpersticker. Maybe that will reach the people that support Obama and can't give one single, rational reason why they do.

4Reaganomics
03-19-2008, 11:52 PM
Some people just don't get it pen, the hard left is so against America that they consider the things listed above as "qualifications"

Coulter Enwrong
03-20-2008, 12:11 AM
I've sometimes described BHO as "all glam and no slam." He certainly has no intention of solving America's real problems.

Truth_and_Power
03-20-2008, 03:31 AM
FROM YOUR LINK:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm

Netlore Archive: Email rumor alleges that U.S. presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama is a loyal Muslim who has lied about his religious background, including his claim to being a devout Christian

Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: January 2007
Status: False


It was not a wahabi school, no evidence to suggest his father was a radical. Amazing that you have the gall to call him a racist when clearly there is a racist appeal in these accusations.

4Reaganomics
03-20-2008, 03:59 AM
Sorry sir

You can only vote the anti-semitic way and attend an anti-semitic church while having a link the the blank panther party with a wife referencing "white oppressors" for so long before someone says

G, I think this guy is a racist

suedanim
03-20-2008, 05:26 AM
Pure rightwing hogwash..smear. You folks believe any kind of propaganda eh? Sad. Thats why theGOP knows it still in business, even though its hardly a true conservative party anymore. It still has enough people who believe the crap they concoct, the fear they are selling.

I see you have links within the article... but who exactly authored this piece, The Real Obama, and where is the link to it?

I challenge you to provide your source.

Your links...

Free Republic: A conservative message board, so any pile of manure can be posted there and some people pick it up as fact, when it is in fact...fiction.

World Net Daily: A conservative ...news.. source... akin to Newsmax.

Newsmax: Probably the source conservatives go to first. Its designed and provides news with that speshul conservative...twist.., much like Foxnews is well known.

Like I said... your article is a hit piece, a slanderous vile piece of propaganda and the author of it is too ashamed of it to put his name on it and you provided no link for reference purposes. For all we know, you wrote it.

If you want to convince people, other than your homies, that Obama is a bad guy, you need to do your research better and provide credible source material from other than sites, nearly all of which, are exclusively rightwing sites.

Truth_and_Power
03-20-2008, 01:44 PM
Sorry sir

You can only vote the anti-semitic way and attend an anti-semitic church while having a link the the blank panther party with a wife referencing "white oppressors" for so long before someone says

G, I think this guy is a racist


You just got busted so hard and you don't even care. The very site you linked to noted that the claim was false, yet you don't even cede defeat. You sir, have no honor.

4Reaganomics
03-20-2008, 01:50 PM
First, What claim is false? I believe in what I wrote

Second, I did take about 20 minutes the other day to write up that piece because TSKY told me that she would write one up in the same type of format about McCain

Anyone who sits in Jeremiah Wright's church has significant issues. While I believe Obama joined the church for political gain when getting into the state senate in Illinois, one has to realize that it is dishonorable and horrifying that a president would sit in front of that type of anti-white and anti-american hate

Truth_and_Power
03-20-2008, 01:56 PM
First, What claim is false?


Scroll... up....read....my...response....

Your assertion is debunked by the very site you linked. Don't like that site now? Check it out on snopes.com, same conclusion.

4Reaganomics
03-20-2008, 02:04 PM
Are you referring to the black panther link?, because that was put up by the racist bigot panthers and removed by Obama as an attempt to save face

That is a large first post. I'm unsure as to what you are refuting.

If you are refuting something in the second post in response to Obama being a racist, if a contradicts a link I apologize, but I stand by my interpretation of his church.

Truth_and_Power
03-20-2008, 02:13 PM
FROM YOUR LINK:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm

Netlore Archive: Email rumor alleges that U.S. presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama is a loyal Muslim who has lied about his religious background, including his claim to being a devout Christian

Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: January 2007
Status: False


It was not a wahabi school, no evidence to suggest his father was a radical. Amazing that you have the gall to call him a racist when clearly there is a racist appeal in these accusations.


Okay now I'm quoting myself...

What part of "Status:False" is unclear?

4Reaganomics
03-20-2008, 02:19 PM
Explain to me sir, where I said that the school was strictly wahabist?

Obama spend the majority of his early life in Hawaii and Jakarta, Indonesia. He went to school in Indonesia for four years as a child where wahabism was wide spread.

Wahhabism is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi , many Jihadists had a similar upbringing to Obama, for they too were subjected to Wahhabism.

I said that Wahabism was widely spread throughout the culture he was a part of, which it was.

As for his father, Radical is in the eye of the beholder. I have read about him and consider what I know of him to fit the mold of radical more than conventional.

Are there any other of my words that you would like to distort? I could understand if my candidate of choice was a racist, I'd probably have to erect strawmen as well

Truth_and_Power
03-20-2008, 02:33 PM
"Wahhabism is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi , many Jihadists had a similar upbringing to Obama, for they too were subjected to Wahhabism. "

You implied that obama was raised wahhabi without directly saying so. It's a standard republican tactic used to speak outright lies while not 'technically' lying. It's really low, reflects very poorly on your integrity.

edit: ok actually I guess "they too were.." does actually directly state that obama was raised wahabbi. Otherwise, why the "too"?

Truth_and_Power
03-20-2008, 02:35 PM
I look foward to seeing evidence that his father was a radical.

4Reaganomics
03-20-2008, 02:38 PM
"Subjected to" is much different than "was raised"

I was using the third definition of the word "subjected", meaning "to be exposed to"

What you are saying, is not implied. At most it is your interpretation, and an inaccurate distortion of my claim.

4Reaganomics
03-20-2008, 02:39 PM
So when will you claim defeat? Considering you couldn't understand that "subjected to" and "raised" are different.

Truth_and_Power
03-20-2008, 03:13 PM
"Subjected to" is much different than "was raised"

I was using the third definition of the word "subjected", meaning "to be exposed to"

What you are saying, is not implied. At most it is your interpretation, and an inaccurate distortion of my claim.


So anyone who's been in a country with any wahhabi-ists in it has been "subjected to" it? So technically, you've been "subjected to" the KKK, with a similar upbringing to many racists?

4Reaganomics
03-20-2008, 03:17 PM
I said it was "widespread", meaning that it was widely practiced and he was subjected to it on a level similar to someone over here being subjected to McDonald's

its everywhere

you can attempt to distort the words all that you want, I meant what they state grammatically.

That Obama was subjected to Wahabism, which was widespread.

Truth_and_Power
03-20-2008, 03:29 PM
I would like to see some evidence that wahhabiism is "everywhere" in indonesia. I'm not disputing it, I just can't find any evidence to back that up in my googling. Feel free not to post a link to ihateforeigners.com..

4Reaganomics
03-20-2008, 03:39 PM
Sorry, the Clinton News Network probably won't have anything in their history on wahabism in Indonesia

They'll probably just have pictures of Obama with a rainbow in the background and him on a white horse

Truth_and_Power
03-20-2008, 03:49 PM
Sorry, the Clinton News Network probably won't have anything in their history on wahabism in Indonesia

They'll probably just have pictures of Obama with a rainbow in the background and him on a white horse


So you're not willing to substantiate your claim? c'mon, that's weak, back it up.

ViolaLee
03-20-2008, 03:55 PM
It's so sad to see people brainwashed by the right wing extremist smear campaigns. Don't you ever crave the truth? Don't all the lies make you feel dirty and slimy?

4Reaganomics
03-20-2008, 03:58 PM
It's so sad to see people brainwashed by the right wing extremist smear campaigns. Don't you ever crave the truth? Don't all the lies make you feel dirty and slimy?


I feel much better knowing that my choice of elected officials aren't attempting to turn my country into the European Union.

Truth_and_Power
03-20-2008, 04:25 PM
Vote White Male in 2008, it's the only way to be sure.

preservanation
03-20-2008, 11:40 PM
That's old white rich male...you know, the ones responsible for all the sins of the past...

apdst
03-20-2008, 11:48 PM
That's old white rich male...you know, the ones responsible for all the sins of the past

The same ones that have kept us on top of the hill for over two hundred years.

Go Fish
03-21-2008, 05:19 AM
Pure rightwing hogwash..smear. You folks believe any kind of propaganda eh? Sad. Thats why theGOP knows it still in business, even though its hardly a true conservative party anymore. It still has enough people who believe the crap they concoct, the fear they are selling.

I see you have links within the article... but who exactly authored this piece, The Real Obama, and where is the link to it?

I challenge you to provide your source.

Your links...

Free Republic: A conservative message board, so any pile of manure can be posted there and some people pick it up as fact, when it is in fact...fiction.

World Net Daily: A conservative ...news.. source... akin to Newsmax.

Newsmax: Probably the source conservatives go to first. Its designed and provides news with that speshul conservative...twist.., much like Foxnews is well known.

Like I said... your article is a hit piece, a slanderous vile piece of propaganda and the author of it is too ashamed of it to put his name on it and you provided no link for reference purposes. For all we know, you wrote it.

If you want to convince people, other than your homies, that Obama is a bad guy, you need to do your research better and provide credible source material from other than sites, nearly all of which, are exclusively rightwing sites.

Suedanim, it's easily debunkable. All you have to do is refute it all. You certainly aren't suggesting that the NYT would have printed any of these facts, are you?
Hell, our local paper is so overboard with Obama that it's laughable. Well, almost. Actually, it's just disgusting.