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Go Fish
03-12-2008, 10:06 PM
Obama Backer Revives Clinton Scandals

March 11, 2008

By Ben Smith

Another sign of the anger in Obamaland at the Clinton campaign: an email from a member of Obama's LGBT leadership council, Maxim Thorne, to a couple of listservs:

"We cannot tolerate her lies and stolen election," Thorne wrote of Clinton, revisiting familiar themes:

At 3am, Hillary said she and Bill were in bed and she knows of all the calls a President gets at different times of the day and night. Really? So much involvement - so much togetherness. Where was she when Monica was having sex with Bill? 35 years of experience? When he was intimidating Katherine Wiley and Paula Jones? Where was the judgment on the cattle futures and white water. Do we forget Mark and Denise Rich? This was an impeached President who lost his license to practice law. He committed perjury. They settled with Paula Jones for the full amount of her lawsuit. I haven't forgotten and none of us should.

"These comments have no place in this campaign," said Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor, who couldn't immediately say whether Thorne would be leaving his position with the campaign.

UPDATE: Vietor said Thorne is resigning from the leadership council, and that the campaign has accepted his resignation.

Original email:

From: Maxim Thorne
Sent: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 8:46 pm
Subject: Clinton lies and sleaze

Hillary Clinton is a disaster for the democratic party. Now she prefers McCain to Obama. Now we know it was SHE who told the Canadian government that her railings against NAFTA were political posturing. It was not Barack's campaign!

We cannot tolerate her lies and stolen election.

Time for all of us democratics to wake up to this disgusting turn. As democratics this should affirm the end of her campaign.

At 3am, Hillary said she and Bill were in bed and she knows of all the calls a President gets at different times of the day and night. Really? So much involvement - so much togetherness. Where was she when Monica was having sex with Bill? 35 years of experience? When he was intimidating Katherine Wiley and Paula Jones? Where was the judgment on the cattle futures and white water. Do we forget Mark and Denise Rich? This was an impeached President who lost his licence to practice law. He committed perjury. They settled with Paula Jones for the full amount of her lawsuit. I haven't forgotten and none of us should.

I remember the scandal when the Clintons' bags were searched when they left the White House and they had to return historic artifacts and gifts.

When Bin Laden was building Al Qaeda, Bill and she were fighting impeachment, fighting Paula Jones, fighting Katherine Wiley.

Please, we are going down a nasty road with a nasty, secretive and proven lying Clinton. We should all want to see her tax returns, I want to see her White House emails. Let really send this candidate what she deserves: the spotlight on her vetting. She says she's been vetted. Partly true and it's not pretty what came out.

What still has to be vetted are her tax returns, her White House performance (we already know her disasterous failure on healthcare), her WH emails, the donations to the Clinton Foundation and library etc.

Time to moveon again. Obama is the only credible candidate who can move on beyond this continuing nasty dynasty of Clinton and Bushes.

Source: Politico

Buck Laser
03-12-2008, 10:08 PM
Why no link?

BoogyMan
03-12-2008, 10:27 PM
The article is easy enough to find at The Politico where Go Fish said he found this story Buck.

The link to the article is: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Obama_backer_Clinton_lies_and_stolen_election.html

Go Fish
03-12-2008, 10:30 PM
I didn't need to include one because the entire article is there. If you'd read it, you'd find the source in the very last line. Right down at the bottom. Where it says "Source:"

PatrickHenry
03-12-2008, 11:16 PM
Links are still good.

It helps to have your correspondent show you his original source.

And why not?

Go Fish
03-13-2008, 03:48 AM
For the next few weeks I'll be helping everyone learn how to look up supporting facts. Before you know it, there'll be truth flying all over the place, and everyone will be smarter for it.
The current state of affairs is untenable.

Tsky
03-13-2008, 05:25 PM
Good thing Clinton's camp has NEVER done the same thing and too bad absolutely nothing in the memo is true.

*Yawn*

Next.

"These comments have no place in this campaign," said Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor, who couldn't immediately say whether Thorne would be leaving his position with the campaign.

UPDATE: Vietor said Thorne is resigning from the leadership council, and that the campaign has accepted his resignation.

At least Obama knows how to quickly refute remarks from members of his camp, unlike Clinton who couldn't think to refute Ferraro until she was in front of some black folks several days later trying to make herself appear unbiased while at the same time promoting bias. The smart people in America aren't fooled...

Wndrtch
03-13-2008, 07:18 PM
I think this is a new strategy the Dems are trying out.

Have a serogut put out some damaging caustic crap, and have them resign afterwards, so your campaign doesn't take the heat for the crap.

First Geradine, not this guy. Who's next?

PatrickHenry
03-13-2008, 07:25 PM
...
Have a serogut put out some ...

Heh! Nice word! Might want to look up the spelling, though.

Wndrtch
03-13-2008, 07:27 PM
...
Have a serogut put out some ...

Heh! Nice word! Might want to look up the spelling, though.


Ban Pat, for nit-picking my lack of ability to spell.

Oh, wrong thread.

PatrickHenry
03-13-2008, 07:40 PM
Hey man! :fight:

That was light-hearted! Now I'm mad!:scared:

Wndrtch
03-13-2008, 09:42 PM
Hey man! :fight:

That was light-hearted! Now I'm mad!:scared:


Have you not visited the "Let's ban everyone" thread yet?

We could use your creative mind in there. LOL, maybe you could help namguy figure out the rules there.