How the liberal media works.

[ttriber]

I caught this from another forum and got pretty interested about it.

Glenn Beck, a conservative talk show host, diagrams out for us how the liberal media operates in a humorous way. From a joke, to Keith Oberman, to Media Matters, to New York Times - the joke becomes "truth".

Beck makes good points while Olbermann is a hate monger who also is a tongue twister.

Look here.
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/7060/

[Scribbler1]

I used to listen to Beck when he was on in Philly. I think I'd prefer an "explanation" of how the media works from someone a little more credible. And your YouTube link doesn't seem to have much depth to it.

I truly hope you don't think talk show hosts are a source of facts.

Also, you DO know The Onion is a fake newspaper, don't you? The paper and the website are just for laughs.

Great start. Welcome.

[Mayberry]

I think I'd prefer an "explanation" of how the media works from someone a little more credible. What exactly makes Beck not credible? I've found him to be very honest and open. Who admits they're an alcoholic unless they're honest?

[Scribbler1]

Beck is, in this case, offering his own biased opinion. If people take what he says as an opinion, I have no problem with anything he, or any other talk show host says.

And saying he will "explain" the LIBERAL media sends up a red flag right there.

[Mayberry]

Beck expresses his opinions AS opinions, so where is the problem? And that is how most of his listeners take what he says. And from my own informed opinion, I happen to agree with what he has to say about the LIBERAL media. So where is that red flag coming from?

[Elrathin]

I have no problem with him expressing his opinions, and that is EXACTLY what they are opinions, not FACTS.

[Mayberry]

I have no problem with him expressing his opinions, and that is EXACTLY what they are opinions, not FACTS.

Ah so! But at times, Beck does report FACTS, and then offers his OPINIONS about those facts, does he not? It seems to me that a lot of times that liberals seem to condemn conservative talkshow hosts for doing just that! Personally, I see no problem with this practice. I can diferentiate between the two, it seems that some folks can not.

[Elrathin]

Spinning facts, does not make the spin facts. That is what conservatives don't understand many times.

[Mayberry]

Spinning facts, does not make the spin facts. What part of presenting facts, then presenting opinion do you not understand? I listen to Beck 2 or 3 times a week, and I have not observed "spin" on facts. How often do you listen to Beck El?

[Elrathin]

I can say the sun sets in the west. That is fact.

Then I can say the sun sets in the west because it is sick and tired of conservatives.

That does not make my spin fact. That is what I am trying to get at.

[Mayberry]

I can say the sun sets in the west. That is fact.

Then I can say the sun sets in the west because it is sick and tired of conservatives.

That does not make my spin fact. That is what I am trying to get at.

Dude, that is weak. I have heard Beck report many things in a very neutral manner, then apply his analysis. I ask again, how often do you listen to him?

[Elrathin]

Yes, I have listened to him before he can spin things. Sorry, but that is true of any personality.

[Mayberry]

Yes, I have listened to him before OK, I've listened to Air America "before" and they spun things as well, but I listened maybe once a year, so that doesn't really qualify me as an expert now, does it? Beck, over all, is a very fair reporter, and even warns you when the show starts that this is the "fusion of entertainment and enlightenment". Beck delivers fact, then adds his analysis/ opinion.

[Elrathin]

He spins like any other radio personality. Sorry you hate the FACTS.

[Mayberry]

He spins like any other radio personality. Sorry you hate the FACTS. For this to be fact, you must back it up with sources/ evidence. Please do so. Otherwise, I take this to be your own opinion/ spin. Man, I'm glad to be back! How you doin' El?

[Drocket]

Beck makes good points while Olbermann is a hate monger

*snorts milk out his nose*

[davo]

The media is *not* 'liberal' or 'conservative'. The media is only what Rupert Murdoch and his banker mates want to be aired - in other words, the worst parts of liberalism and conservatism.

[Scribbler1]

The media is *not* 'liberal' or 'conservative'. Actually, what a lot of people miss is the fact that the "MEDIA" is A business, and that means they exist to make money.
If their audience is liberal, they slant liberal, and if their audience slants conservative they go that way.
Right wingers love to call the media liberal mainly because they think the news should say only good things about conservatives. That, and since they right wing is such a small minority in this country, there just isn't much good to report about them.

[Drocket]

Actually, what a lot of people miss is the fact that the "MEDIA" is A business, and that means they exist to make money.

Might want to tell CNN that: for some reason, they keep Glenn Beck around, even though he's a ratings sinkhole...

[dgun]

I think I'd prefer an "explanation" of how the media works from someone a little more credible.

Glenn Beck could not find his ass with both hands.

[Scribbler1]

Actually, what a lot of people miss is the fact that the "MEDIA" is A business, and that means they exist to make money.

Might want to tell CNN that: for some reason, they keep Glenn Beck around, even though he's a ratings sinkhole...
For "balance" maybe? The right always seems to single out CNN when they rant about the "liberal" media. Maybe they're trying to shut the whiners up.

[Hogan]

Mainstream media NOT left leaning? Fair and balanced? Yeah, sure, right...
The 'Left' can't see it because they just don't understand 'Right' points of view (*They have eyes but can not see, hears but can not hear)

Examples: Presidental Debates: Question to Republican's: "If Roe vs Wade should be overturned during your time in office, would you prosecute a woman who has an abortion?" Gee, is that "Left" leaning? The question OBVIOUSLY leans left focusing on the "Left" point of view on a woman's rights. Do you see anything even close asked of Democrates? Anything? How about something to like "Would you, if elected, prosecute doctors who perform late term aborations (*Partial Birth where the baby is basically born - feet, arms, body out, kicking and moving, then while the baby is OBVIOUSLY ALIVE scisors are inserted into the baby's skull and the brain sucked out). Anything like that? I haven't seen ANY TOUGH questions that I want answered. Questions asked of Republicans are slanted toward War Mongering and a terrible economy and such. All LEFT leaning questions. Again, no HARD, TOUGHT questions leaning RIGHT.

Here's another Fair and Blanced mainstream observation.
It's Thanksgiving morning, the US has only just taken control of Baghdad and who show's up to be with the OUR troops? The President of the United States! I couldn't believe it! I snatched the remote from my teenage daughter who was watching FOX News and switched it over. This was going to be great! I couldn't wait - they were going to have to show OUR PRESIDENT, in a war zone, supporting the troops, risking his life! Take that CNN! I WATCHED FOR JUST ABOUT AN HOUR BEFORE CNN FINALLY PUT A LITTLE TICKER ON THE BOTTOM THAT READ "BUSH VISITS TROOPS IN IRAQ". Yeah, fair and balanced media. "They have eye's but can not see, ears but can not hear".

[Scribbler1]

I don't buy that assertion. Just ask yourself if FOX, for instance, would have commentators start saying complimentary things about the liberals and see where their ratings go.
If Olbermann started saying sweet things about Bush, you can bet Countdown's ratings would drop.

I'm telling you, large corporations do not take ideology into account when the bottom line is at stake. It's ALL about profit, and if they piss off their audience they lose ratings points. If that happens, advertisers pay less for commercial time. If that happens the profit margin decreases.

And the dollar knows no patriotism.