Obama to reconsider 16 month withdrawal plan once elected

[AlonzoMourning23]

The BBC interview proceeded as follows:

BBC: "You said that he'll revisit it when he goes to the White House. So what the American public thinks is a commitment to get combat forces out within sixteen months, isn't a commitment isn't it?

POWER: "You can't make a commitment in whatever month we're in now, in March of 2008 about what circumstances are gonna be like in Jan. 2009. We can't even tell what Bush is up to in terms of troop pauses and so forth. He will of course not rely upon some plan that he's crafted as a presidential candidate or as a US senator.

He will rely upon a plan, an operational plan that he pulls together, in consultation with people who are on the ground, to whom he doesn't have daily access now as a result of not being the president. So to think, I mean it would be the height of ideology, you know, to sort of say, well I said it therefore I'm going to impose it on whatever reality entreats me -

BBC:Ok, so the 16 months is negotiable?

POWER: It's the best case scenario.

BBC: It's the best case scenario.

POWER: It is -

BBC: And of course in Iraq we've never seen best case scenario.

POWER: We have never seen best case scenario

BBC: So we needn't necessarily take it seriously at all.

POWER: What we can take seriously is that he will try to get US forces out as quickly and as responsibly as possible. And that's the best case, estimate of what it would take.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/07/obama_team_charges_double_stan_1.html

Obama's a new kind of politician, he tells you he's lying BEFORE you vote for him, not after! :madlaugh:

[PostmodernProphet]

He will of course not rely upon some plan that he's crafted as a presidential candidate or as a US senator.

He has one-upped Kerry....

"I may be for the war, after I was against it!"

[Elrathin]

Sorry but the ultimate is still "Read my lips, no new taxes".

[Buck Laser]

Sorry but the ultimate is still "Read my lips, no new taxes".

Or maybe "we'll get him--dead or alive!" :nana:

[Scribbler1]

Does this actually surprise anyone? The closer any of these candidates get to possibly actually WINNING the election, the more they will slide away from their earlier promises.

It makes perfectly good sense, actually. You say whatever it takes to get the idiot sheep in your corner, and after you have them, you have them but good. After that, you can back off on any lie you want and you will STILL keep your adoring fans. Hell, you'd have to shoot the Pope in Times Square on live TV before some of these sheep would reconsider their choice.

[lily]

The BBC interview proceeded as follows:

BBC: "You said that he'll revisit it when he goes to the White House. So what the American public thinks is a commitment to get combat forces out within sixteen months, isn't a commitment isn't it?

POWER: "You can't make a commitment in whatever month we're in now, in March of 2008 about what circumstances are gonna be like in Jan. 2009. We can't even tell what Bush is up to in terms of troop pauses and so forth. He will of course not rely upon some plan that he's crafted as a presidential candidate or as a US senator.

He will rely upon a plan, an operational plan that he pulls together, in consultation with people who are on the ground, to whom he doesn't have daily access now as a result of not being the president. So to think, I mean it would be the height of ideology, you know, to sort of say, well I said it therefore I'm going to impose it on whatever reality entreats me -

BBC:Ok, so the 16 months is negotiable?

POWER: It's the best case scenario.

BBC: It's the best case scenario.

POWER: It is -

BBC: And of course in Iraq we've never seen best case scenario.

POWER: We have never seen best case scenario

BBC: So we needn't necessarily take it seriously at all.

POWER: What we can take seriously is that he will try to get US forces out as quickly and as responsibly as possible. And that's the best case, estimate of what it would take.


Obama's a new kind of politician, he tells you he's lying BEFORE you vote for him, not after! :madlaugh:



Does it surprise you that I see this differently? I see him saying he really doesn't know until he gets there and what crazy move Bush is going to make. Who knows what Bush will do in his final days?

[AlanC]

It also means he had no idea of what he was talking about when he first made the pledge and people voted for him actually thinking he may have meant it.

[Scribbler1]

I think he knew exactly what he was saying. Look where it got him.

Remember how the Democrats took the majority in the last election by promising to end the war? Then they proceeded to yammer about their little "non-binding resolution" that in essence said "President Bush, we don't like what you did but we're not going to do anything about it", and even THAT was voted down.

Am I the only one who sees a HUGE number of herd animals every time I look out the window?

[AlonzoMourning23]

The BBC interview proceeded as follows:

BBC: "You said that he'll revisit it when he goes to the White House. So what the American public thinks is a commitment to get combat forces out within sixteen months, isn't a commitment isn't it?

POWER: "You can't make a commitment in whatever month we're in now, in March of 2008 about what circumstances are gonna be like in Jan. 2009. We can't even tell what Bush is up to in terms of troop pauses and so forth. He will of course not rely upon some plan that he's crafted as a presidential candidate or as a US senator.

He will rely upon a plan, an operational plan that he pulls together, in consultation with people who are on the ground, to whom he doesn't have daily access now as a result of not being the president. So to think, I mean it would be the height of ideology, you know, to sort of say, well I said it therefore I'm going to impose it on whatever reality entreats me -

BBC:Ok, so the 16 months is negotiable?

POWER: It's the best case scenario.

BBC: It's the best case scenario.

POWER: It is -

BBC: And of course in Iraq we've never seen best case scenario.

POWER: We have never seen best case scenario

BBC: So we needn't necessarily take it seriously at all.

POWER: What we can take seriously is that he will try to get US forces out as quickly and as responsibly as possible. And that's the best case, estimate of what it would take.


Obama's a new kind of politician, he tells you he's lying BEFORE you vote for him, not after! :madlaugh:



Does it surprise you that I see this differently? I see him saying he really doesn't know until he gets there and what crazy move Bush is going to make. Who knows what Bush will do in his final days?


So why make the 16 month statements in the first place? You're comfortable with your "agent of change" doing what every other politician does?

Maybe the change he talks about is that he'll change himself.

"I will become like them! Yes I can! Yes I can!"