Obama didn't see Consitutional Conflict in sweeping DC gun ban

[WRL]

Barrack Obama supporting DC's sweeping ban on even handguns...

"The city of Chicago has gun laws, so does Washington, DC, The notion that somehow local jurisdictions can't initiate gun safety laws to deal with gangbangers and random shootings on the street isn't born out by our Constitution."

Barrack represents change alright...

For the record this was a sweeping ban that was ruled Unconstitutional, banning the sale, and requiring already owned firearms to be disassembled.

Here is a link on that...

D.C. Handgun Ban Struck Down by Federal Appeals Court (Update5)

By Cary O'Reilly

March 9 (Bloomberg) -- A U.S. appeals court struck down a three-decade-old District of Columbia law that bans residents from keeping a handgun in their homes, saying the Constitution's Second Amendment protects an individual right to bear arms.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in Washington also threw out a district law requiring registered firearms to be kept disassembled or under trigger lock.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=azTOCL.ZiDGM&refer =us

But that's the kind of 'change' we can expect with Barrack Obama...

[WRL]

oops...

[micfranklin]

As of right now that's my only major problem with Obama, his anti-gun stances but then again most Democrats are anti-gun.

[Wndrtch]

As of right now that's my only major problem with Obama, his anti-gun stances but then again most Democrats are anti-gun.


Anti-gun
Anti-working family
Anti-econemy
Anti-Ole' Glory
Anti-war
Anti-fiscal responsibility

[Saigio]

Anti-working family

Lol wut? I'd like proof on that. Unbiased.

Anti-econemy

oO Really? Again, prove it. Unbiased source, please

Anti-Ole' Glory

What? Does he have a speacial burn pile where he sets light to flags? Does he spit on the flag? Or are you saying this because he refusees to take part in the moronic flash fad that started after 9/11 of blind "patriotism"?

Anti-war

Proof, please? Unbiased, as always.

Anti-fiscal responsibility

I bet you know what I'm gonna ask for.
That's right, unbiased proof.:thumbsup:

[Osborn F. Enready]

Here is some proof of Barack BACKSLIDING on his supposed "contrasts" between Hillary Clinton, and himself.....

First, go and look up HR 6, Vote #213, 7/29/05
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00213

This vote is the energy policy the Democrats have been having a field day lambasting......

What did Obama vote?
Obama (D-IL), Yea

This vote included subsidies to the oil and gas industry to the order of $6 BILLION.
This vote included subsidies to the coal industry to the order of $9 BILLION.
This vote included subsidies to the nuclear power industry of $12 BILLION.

Check out what the Washington Post had to say about this Bill.....

During the debate over the bill's numerous subsidies, taxpayer groups questioned why thriving energy companies need federal aid to produce energy. But the bill's defenders say it is not realistic to expect newer and cleaner technologies to succeed their own. "They need a jump-start," said Tom Kuhn, president of the Edison Electric Institute.

"This will be one of the biggest economic changes in the country in 70 years," said Lynn Hargis of the liberal consumer group Public Citizen.

The bill's biggest winner was probably the nuclear industry, which received billions of dollars in subsidies and tax breaks covering almost every facet of operations. There were subsidies for research into new reactor designs, "fusion energy," small-particle accelerators and reprocessing nuclear waste, which would reverse current U.S. policy. Rep. Ralph Hall (R-Tex.) even inserted a $250,000 provision for research into using radiation to refine oil.

The bill also included $2 billion for "risk insurance" in case new nuclear plants run into construction and licensing delays. And nuclear utilities will be eligible for taxpayer-backed loan guarantees of as much as 80 percent the cost of their plants.

It also includes an estimated $85 billion worth of subsidies and tax breaks for most forms of energy -- including oil and gas, "clean coal," ethanol, electricity, and solar and wind power. The nuclear industry got subsidies for research, waste reprocessing, construction, operation and even decommission. The petroleum industry got new incentives to drill in the Gulf of Mexico -- as if $60-a-barrel oil wasn't enough of an incentive. The already-subsidized ethanol industry got a federal mandate that will nearly double its output by 2012 -- as well as new subsidies to develop ethanol from other sources.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/29/AR2005072901128.html




So please tell me OBAMA SUPPORTERS......

Is this the "change" you had in mind?
Is this how you strengthen the "American Family" and "middle class"?
:clapper: :bye: :fight:

Time to wake up and smell the partisan BS for what it is.....

ALL OF THE MAJOR PARTY ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES ARE SELLING YOU OUT!

Ron Paul, the only one who addresses the FACTS, has been shunned for doing exactly that. :dizzy:

[micfranklin]

Anti-war

Being anti-war is actually a good thing.

[Osborn F. Enready]

I fail to see how Obama stands up for ANY individual rights any more than the traitor Hillary.

[4Reaganomics]

Anti-Ole' Glory

That cracks me up

[Elrathin]

It's hilarious that some conservatives think that wearing a flag pin and saying the pledge of allegiance somehow makes you patriotic. Pathetic.

[WRL]

As of right now that's my only major problem with Obama, his anti-gun stances but then again most Democrats are anti-gun.


Anti-gun
Anti-working family
Anti-econemy
Anti-Ole' Glory
Anti-war
Anti-fiscal responsibility


Well I've already shown you he's deeply untrustful regarding Gun Control, that quote was in the context of a school shooting, showing the extreme lengths he may go should another crisis arise.

Working family, well I can imagine the working family hates paying taxes, I know I do, and doesn't want the Bush tax cuts rolled back, nor a tax on what the Democrats call the 'rich' which will take away money to hire, and reduce production, creating even more job losses. I'm sure a working family would hate to be out a job because the company wasn't profitable enough to afford them, or continue production at current level because Barrack Obama needed money to pay for his promise the moon campaign promises.

Anti-economy, see point above, he's already talking about raising taxes, and you know when a Democrat is promising Tax Hikes in the election, you can bet they'll be raised, and ten times what they say. Funny thing is then he goes on to attack Bush on economics. I wasn't aware of the great economic theory that called fro tax hikes with a shaky economy.

Well the flag lapel issue is a bit overblown, but his publicly way of removing it, his Islamic school education, I mean even his name is Barrack Hussein Obama. It's sure got me scratching my head. But I'm sure he's Patriotic, just misguided.

Anti-war, being this is as idiotic as being pro-war. While we're on foreign policy, his idea of foreign policy is to pull out of a war we are finally seeing success in, and can win, to start bombing our allies.

Well it took him one term to take the rating of the most Liberal member of the Senate, he's already promising to raise our taxes, and is promising things he cannot pay for on the campaign trail.

Overall I'd have to agree with your premise.

[Elrathin]

Well the flag lapel issue is a bit overblown, but his publicly way of removing it, his Islamic school education, I mean even his name is Barrack Hussein Obama. It's sure got me scratching my head. But I'm sure he's Patriotic, just misguided.

So what if his name is Barrack Hussein OBama. What does that have to do with ANYTHING? Do you only vote fr or against someone due to their name? Wow that would be idiotic if you did.

As for the school, I've already shown that he was only at that school from age 6-10 hardly having roots there and is a Christian now. So again, why do you continually try to pin that he is a radical Muslim or has radical Muslim ties?

[WRL]

Barrack Hussein Obama, lol, I'm not making a big case out of it, but it is kinda funny...

Obama's Islamic Education...
This is actually the first time I've brought it up, but there are just so many things I can ignore. 4 years in a Islamic school. Do you know what goes on in many of those places? I'm not sure if while we are fighting the war on terror, Islamic schools being a fundamental part of the indoctrination of the terrorists we are fighting, that we need to elect a man who was educated in one. I haven't made much an issue out of this, but the more I learn, the higher my eyebrow gets...

[Elrathin]

Barrack Hussein Obama, lol, I'm not making a big case out of it, but it is kinda funny...

What's funny about it?


Obama's Islamic Education...
This is actually the first time I've brought it up, but there are just so many things I can ignore. 4 years in a Islamic school. Do you know what goes on in many of those places? I'm not sure if while we are fighting the war on terror, Islamic schools being a fundamental part of the indoctrination of the terrorists we are fighting, that we need to elect a man who was educated in one. I haven't made much an issue out of this, but the more I learn, the higher my eyebrow gets...


From age 6-10? What do you really think his education was for those ages. LOL You are against someone because in his CHILDHOOD of 6-10 was educated in Indonesia. That's pathetic.

Obama is 46 years old and you are holding against him schooling he got when he was 6 years old, now that's funny.

[WRL]

point 1
Do I really need to spell it out for you?

point 2
I'm saying he attended a school that's at the very heart of the problem that has us embroiled in war today...

[Elrathin]

point 1
Do I really need to spell it out for you?

Sure, why are you against his name? Does the fact that he has Hussein in his name somehow mean he is a dictator or related to Saddams policies in anyway? Nope, so why even bring that up?


point 2
I'm saying he attended a school that's at the very heart of the problem that has us embroiled in war today...


Yes, because he was FORCED to. It's not like at age 6 he said, "Oh this is cool, I think I will do this the rest of my life."

And now the guy is 46 years old and you are against him because he attended a school in Indonesia from age 6 to 10?

Did the school you attend at that age shape you for life and make you the person you are today? Did you not change EVER?

I sure in the hell know that I don't remember much at all of the schooling I got from age 6 to 10, so I would have to say that is a ridiculous thing to be against Obama for.

You want to be against him for his voting record and issues that he is running for on his platform? Fine, but it is quite infantile to be against him because of a school he attended at such an early age that he had no control over whatsoever.

The fact he is a Christian now shows that schooling had no effect on his upbringing.

[Buck Laser]

I fail to see how Obama stands up for ANY individual rights any more than the traitor Hillary.


There you go with that traitor shit again....:blah:

[WRL]

This is insignificant, and I wouldn't even bring it up, but you keep asking, his last name soooounds far to much like OSAMA for my liking, and throw in a Hussein and it's almost comical, now all he needs a way to work in Ahmadinejad. If it wasn't real, it'd be... well it's still comical. Has nothing to do with his politics. Which is what I'm trying to address here, how about that sweeping gun ban?

Further O/T but I actually I attended a Military School and yes I do believe it probably influenced me as I went into the Army, my point about the schools is, I'm not convinced he sees this war for what it is, a cultural problem, where children are indoctrinated, and state run media's reinforce radical Islam. Now he's either naive and buying all this left wing war for oil garbage, or he's oblivious to the problem, or perhaps even worse, apethic to this part of the problem.

[4Reaganomics]

If you would've told Jefferson on Madison that Obama was going to be president they would have laughed in your face. They would say that America is a place of individual liberty and rights, and his philosophy simply doesn't belong here. Thus, years later

here we are

[Osborn F. Enready]

Buck Laser said:
There you go with that traitor sh1t again

Yes, its called calling things how they are. :shock:

Both Hillary and Obama are ANTI-CONSTITUTION and ANTI-BILL OF RIGHTS.

Obama prefers the UN version of "human rights", which are critically and permanently flawed, as well as not part of the OATH he takes to uphold the Constitutuon and OUR BILL OF RIGHTS.

They are anti-capitalist, anti-rights, and that equates to TREASONOUS TO THEIR STATED OATH, and in breech of their contract to SERVE the people, as opposed to SUBVERT the peoples rights and soverignty as their actions and votes belie as their agenda.

Yes, I have, and will continue to call Obama and Clinton what they are.... TRAITORS, TREASONOUS BASTARDS, and anti-American. I call their supporters sheeple, until they logically and reasonably explain why they would support such treason, if for any reason other than ignorance, they might be supporters of and enablers of treason.

If they want socialist or communist policy, they should move to a nation that already has that as their national goals, as our nation is directly the opposite of those goals, and agendas.

Sorry reality sucks so much Buck. :love:

[Go Fish]

As of right now that's my only major problem with Obama, his anti-gun stances but then again most Democrats are anti-gun.


So you're voting for him based on his record. :madlaugh:

There's a term, "Yellow-Dog Democrat", which means someone would vote for a yellow dog over a Republican. Screw the country as long as it's destroyed by a democrat and all.....