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Easy90
02-22-2008, 03:23 PM
Can you cite any specific accomplishment/experience that qualifies him to be POTUS?
potter
02-22-2008, 03:31 PM
Can you cite any specific accomplishment/experience that qualifies him to be POTUS?
Yes, he's different and sincere. (like Paul) I could give a rats ass about experience. Experience is what got us where we are today, a do nothing corporate party owned nanny state government which ignores problems that have plagued us for decades, answerable only to corporate interests.
I'll try anything BUT what we have now.
preservanation
02-22-2008, 03:36 PM
Hey, Easy.
You're going to be lonely here!
:)
Easy90
02-22-2008, 03:49 PM
Can you cite any specific accomplishment/experience that qualifies him to be POTUS?
Yes, he's different and sincere. (like Paul) I could give a rats ass about experience. Experience is what got us where we are today, a do nothing corporate party owned nanny state government which ignores problems that have plagued us for decades, answerable only to corporate interests.
I'll try anything BUT what we have now.
So....you list as the singular accomplishment that qualifies him to be POTUS, the fact that he's not GWB?
ViolaLee
02-22-2008, 04:08 PM
He worked with Republican Dick Lugar on a nuclear non-proliferation bill and they passed it successfully to lock up loose nukes that have been laying around since the Soviet collapse.
He helped pass an ethics reform bill.
One colleague who took note was the powerful then-chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, who later invited Obama on a trip through the former Soviet Union, inspecting projects to decommission Cold War-era weapons. The two ultimately worked together to pass legislation to control the spread of weapons.
"I like him, and I appreciate working with him," Lugar said. "It seems to me that he was adept in finding partners and coalitions and actually was able to achieve results."
In addition to a legislative accomplishment teaming with Lugar, the partnership gave Obama the added credibility he sought in an association across party lines. A former presidential candidate who has seen many fellow senators launch White House bids during his 30-year Senate career, Lugar offers unusually strong praise for Obama.
"He does have a sense of idealism and principled leadership, a vision of the future," Lugar said. "At certain points in history, certain people are the ones that are most likely to have the vision or imagination or be able to identify talent and to manage other people's ideas. And I think he does this well."
Within his own party, Obama gained the confidence of the leadership and soon took on a role as the Democrats' spokesman on ethics reform. A package that included many of the provisions he championed ultimately passed the Senate.http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/obama_surrogates_flub_no_refle.html
He can cross party lines and get things done. He's already proven it.
Anyone can google search his accomplishments if they really want to know. Dishonest people can continue to pretend he doesn't have any. Just because one guy couldn't name them when put on the spot on TV, doesn't mean there aren't any.
tony mitra
02-22-2008, 05:03 PM
What is a POTUS ?
4Reaganomics
02-22-2008, 05:14 PM
President of the United States
I know for a fact from very credible people that Obama was all over John W. Rowe, CEO of ticker EXC with sanctions, until Rowe donated the max on campaign contributions (and God knows what else, maybe an adjacent plot of land). Then EXC was left alone....
Why does nobody care that the man was indecisive when he had to make an important decision. He voted "present" on numerous different occasions
Easy90
02-22-2008, 05:43 PM
He can cross party lines and get things done. He's already proven it. Viola Lee
Right!
In 2007, Obama voted with his fellow Democrats 97 percent of the time. In 2006, his score was 96, and in 2005, he again netted a 97 percent rating.:lmao:
preservanation
02-22-2008, 06:06 PM
It just must be eviscerating to Hillary that she is being beat by this guy.
IMO he could actually be easier to beat than Hillary...maybe, sort of...oh, I don't know...
Who cares, they're both terrible for America.
Conservatives out there....think "Judges"!
Buck Laser
02-22-2008, 07:51 PM
So....you list as the singular accomplishment that qualifies him to be POTUS, the fact that he's not GWB?
Sheee-Yit! That's reason enough right there! :thumbsup:
ViolaLee
02-22-2008, 08:08 PM
President of the United States
I know for a fact from very credible people that Obama was all over John W. Rowe, CEO of ticker EXC with sanctions, until Rowe donated the max on campaign contributions (and God knows what else, maybe an adjacent plot of land). Then EXC was left alone....
Why does nobody care that the man was indecisive when he had to make an important decision. He voted "present" on numerous different occasions
The Illinois State Senate where he voted present on occasion, works differently than the US Senate, as Obama has explained already. Try to keep up ;) In the IL State Senate you vote present instead of aye or nay when there are parts of the bill you disagree with and want to keep working on it.
Wndrtch
02-22-2008, 08:43 PM
Can you cite any specific accomplishment/experience that qualifies him to be POTUS?
Yes, he's different and sincere. (like Paul) I could give a rats ass about experience. Experience is what got us where we are today, a do nothing corporate party owned nanny state government which ignores problems that have plagued us for decades, answerable only to corporate interests.
I'll try anything BUT what we have now.
"Different" and "sincere" over experience! LMAO!!! :madlaugh:
Oh man, are we in trouble.
preservanation
02-22-2008, 08:46 PM
"Different" and "sincere" So's Harry Belafonte...
Easy90
02-22-2008, 09:31 PM
"Different" and "sincere" So's Harry Belafonte...
:clapper:
So is PeeWee Herman...LOL! :thumbsup:[hr]
It just must be eviscerating to Hillary that she is being beat by this guy.
IMO he could actually be easier to beat than Hillary...maybe, sort of...oh, I don't know...
Who cares, they're both terrible for America.
Conservatives out there....think "Judges"!
Bingo! That's probably one of the two most important issues the election is about. The other is, national security. They are related.
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So....you list as the singular accomplishment that qualifies him to be POTUS, the fact that he's not GWB?
Sheee-Yit! That's reason enough right there! :thumbsup:
Well..Spit-tooie! You need to catch up with current events cowboy. GWB isn't running for re-election. :madlaugh:
Buck Laser
02-22-2008, 09:44 PM
So....you list as the singular accomplishment that qualifies him to be POTUS, the fact that he's not GWB?
Sheee-Yit! That's reason enough right there! :thumbsup:
Well..Spit-tooie! You need to catch up with current events cowboy. GWB isn't running for re-election. :madlaugh:
Right. But McCain is running. Not much difference.
potter
02-22-2008, 09:49 PM
Can you cite any specific accomplishment/experience that qualifies him to be POTUS?
Yes, he's different and sincere. (like Paul) I could give a rats ass about experience. Experience is what got us where we are today, a do nothing corporate party owned nanny state government which ignores problems that have plagued us for decades, answerable only to corporate interests.
I'll try anything BUT what we have now.
"Different" and "sincere" over experience! LMAO!!! :madlaugh:
Oh man, are we in trouble.
And what was Bush experienced at? Oh, failed businesses and screwing up everything he touched. Is that the experience you seek?[hr]
"Different" and "sincere" So's Harry Belafonte...
I'd bet folks would have voted for him too.....they voted for Reagan right? :nana:
Easy90
02-22-2008, 09:58 PM
Reagan helped California emerge from financial ruin...He then got elected by two landslides to the presidency...and single handedly brought down the Soviet Union. You don't know much about the people you vilify, do you?
And what was Bush experienced at? Oh, failed businesses and screwing up everything he touched. Is that the experience you seek?
He ran the second largest state in the Union, and could have been elected governor for life. He parlayed his gubernatorial popularity into two successful presidential elections.
potter
02-22-2008, 10:05 PM
Reagan helped California emerge from financial ruin...He then got elected by two landslides to the presidency...and single handedly brought down the Soviet Union. You don't know much about the people you vilify, do you?
And what was Bush experienced at? Oh, failed businesses and screwing up everything he touched. Is that the experience you seek?
He ran the second largest state in the Union, and could have been elected governor for life. He parlayed his gubernatorial popularity into two successful presidential elections.
1 - I didn't vilify Reagan, I compared him to an entertainer. Don't assume things.
2 - And what's he done lately?
Easy90
02-22-2008, 10:49 PM
2 - And what's he done lately?
Well, Reagan is currently dead. It was in all the news.
Bush has run the country.
What have you done lately?
4Reaganomics
02-23-2008, 01:50 AM
President of the United States
I know for a fact from very credible people that Obama was all over John W. Rowe, CEO of ticker EXC with sanctions, until Rowe donated the max on campaign contributions (and God knows what else, maybe an adjacent plot of land). Then EXC was left alone....
Why does nobody care that the man was indecisive when he had to make an important decision. He voted "present" on numerous different occasions
The Illinois State Senate where he voted present on occasion, works differently than the US Senate, as Obama has explained already. Try to keep up ;) In the IL State Senate you vote present instead of aye or nay when there are parts of the bill you disagree with and want to keep working on it.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/the_everpresent_obama.html
^^ See article above. I guess it was a big coincidence that he would vote "present" on bills that would affect his own future political ambitions. And his vast amount of experience in the U.S. senate has gotten him out of the mold right
o wait, he is a junior senator who spent his entire time in U.S. senate calculating his run for president
preservanation
02-23-2008, 12:54 PM
This Obama campaign is ridiculous.
What a cult of personality.
Soon all these groupies are going to have to wake up from this binge and face the cold hard truth of a reality hangover.
"OMG, we did what????
We nominated Who?
OMG, OMG..I'm never doing politics ever again, I swear..."
potter
02-24-2008, 05:51 PM
2 - And what's he done lately?
Well, Reagan is currently dead. It was in all the news.
Dont be obtuse....
Bush has run the country.
So hows that going?
Easy90
02-25-2008, 09:01 PM
2 - And what's he done lately?
Well, Reagan is currently dead. It was in all the news.
Dont be obtuse....
Bush has run the country.
So hows that going?
Not bad, considering.... Oh, the lefties are all bent out of shape...but they've been that way since Bush won twice...
You forgot to say what you've been doing. Or, are you just being "obtuse?"
You also forgot to mention what qualifies Obama to run the country.
All you lefties who like to denigrate America have generally behaved like a bunch of spoiled children...and I think you might be surprised to learn that this country isn't the horrible place you paint it. I frankly believe it's the best place on the planet. I wouldn't choose to live anywhere else...and I have been all over the globe. You?
potter
02-26-2008, 12:55 AM
2 - And what's he done lately?
Well, Reagan is currently dead. It was in all the news.
Dont be obtuse....
Bush has run the country.
So hows that going?
Not bad, considering.... Oh, the lefties are all bent out of shape...but they've been that way since Bush won twice...
You forgot to say what you've been doing. Or, are you just being "obtuse?"
You also forgot to mention what qualifies Obama to run the country.
All you lefties who like to denigrate America have generally behaved like a bunch of spoiled children...and I think you might be surprised to learn that this country isn't the horrible place you paint it. I frankly believe it's the best place on the planet. I wouldn't choose to live anywhere else...and I have been all over the globe. You?
Yea, the lefties are bent out of shape, along with a lot of very solid conservatives and independents. Roughly 80% of the population is bent out of shape.
Bush has sold us down the river. One of these days you might realize that...or not.
I really don't care who wins, as long as that person unites the people of America, brings respect back to America (and not at the point of a gun) and brings fiscal responsibility back to our government.
Others would rather America remain divided, and divided it will fall.
preservanation
02-26-2008, 01:59 PM
Members of Washington's military and defense establishment are expressing trepidation about Sen. Barack Obama, as the Illinois senator comes closer to winning the Democratic presidential nomination and leads in national polls to become commander in chief.
"Anyone who is advocating a precipitous pullout of U.S. forces, believing this will be a catalyst for political progress, does not understand the realities of Iraq and the minds of the key political leaders," Gen. Keane told The Washington Times. "The U.S. military presence is the glue that is holding things together in Iraq and is the fundamental reason for the recent political progress. If you remove this presence, the political leaders in Iraq will believe they are on their own and will fall prey to their own fears and paranoia. ... They will bunker down and the political progress will come to a dead stop."http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080226/NATION/476716884/1001&template=nextpage
Elrathin
02-26-2008, 02:03 PM
If you remove this presence, the political leaders in Iraq will believe they are on their own and will fall prey to their own fears and paranoia. ... They will bunker down and the political progress will come to a dead stop."
And when we don't force the Iraqis to keep benchmarks that were set on and agreed upon, the Iraqis believe they don't have to stand up as a whole and can just rely on the U.S. military to solve their big problems.
Wndrtch
02-26-2008, 08:10 PM
"Different" and "sincere" So's Harry Belafonte...
So is Lynus
http://www.peanutscollectorclub.com/clips25.jpg
preservanation
02-26-2008, 08:56 PM
"Different" and "sincere" So's Harry Belafonte...
So is Lynus
So is Mr Rogers.
"Won't you be my neighbor..."
potter
02-27-2008, 12:12 AM
If you remove this presence, the political leaders in Iraq will believe they are on their own and will fall prey to their own fears and paranoia. ... They will bunker down and the political progress will come to a dead stop."
And when we don't force the Iraqis to keep benchmarks that were set on and agreed upon, the Iraqis believe they don't have to stand up as a whole and can just rely on the U.S. military to solve their big problems.
Kind of like parents coddling their children through adulthood. The 35 year old looser living in his folks basement. They never learn to cope on their own and take responsibility for themselves. Pehaps its time to cut them free and let them figure it out.
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