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DANG
02-15-2008, 01:50 AM
CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/14/house.contempt/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)

House targets Bush aides; GOP stages walkout

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The House voted Thursday to hold White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former White House lawyer Harriet Miers in contempt in its probe of the 2006 firings of U.S. attorneys.

The House voted 223-23 to hold the two Bush aides in contempt of Congress.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino called the move "a partisan, futile act" that would not be enforced by the Justice Department.

And the chamber's Republican minority staged a walkout before the vote, demanding that Democratic leaders vote instead on a revision of federal surveillance laws.

"We will not stand here and watch this floor be abused for pure political grandstanding at the expense of our national security," Minority Leader John Boehner said to jeers from Democrats.

But Rep. Louise Slaughter, D-New York, said Congress has to uphold its authority against a White House that is refusing to cooperate with a congressional investigation.

And Rep. John Conyers, D-Michigan, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said Congress has a right to hear from White House officials about the shakeup, which the Justice Department struggled to explain after it became public.

"There was plenty of evidence in our report that showed and suggested there had been many lines crossed between appropriateness and inappropriateness, legality and illegality, and perhaps constitutional violations as well," Conyers said.

Three Republicans who did not take part in the walkout -- including current presidential hopeful Ron Paul of Texas -- supported the resolution, while one Democrat, Texas Rep. Henry Cuellar, opposed it.

The White House has insisted the firings were legal. But Democrats said the central questions behind the dismissals -- who decided the prosecutors should be ousted, and why -- remain unanswered.

Miers and Bolten had refused to testify in the investigation, which stemmed from the Justice Department's dismissals of federal prosecutors in eight cities.

President Bush has invoked a blanket executive privilege covering the testimony of all former and current White House officials and documents subpoenaed by Congress on the controversial firings.

The White House argues that the contempt-of-Congress laws do not apply to the president or any officials who invoke executive privilege, and that forcing the aides to testify would violate the Constitution's separation of powers.

Perino said the administration will not act to enforce Thursday's resolution.

"It's been well understood that throughout history, that while the executive and legislative branches have had disputes, that the Justice Department will not ask the United States attorney to follow through on the contempt charges," she said.

But Thursday's resolution authorizes the House Judiciary Committee to go to court to enforce the subpoenas issued to Miers and Bolten. The committee first recommended contempt proceedings in July, and Conyers said, "We waited as long as we could" to go forward.

While some conversations between the president and top advisers may be considered private, Rep. Brad Miller, D-North Carolina, said Bush's claim "goes well beyond any privilege that's been recognized by any court."

"What is unacceptable is the idea that the president himself should decide," he said.This case will expose how the Election Fraud of 2004 was ordered by the White House.
The sergeant at Arms needs to arrest the dynamic duo. TONIGHT!!

Developing (?) Contempt for Alberto Gonzalez.
These criminals cant just say "No" to Congress.

Interesting that dana Perino would bring up "that forcing the aides to testify would violate the Constitution's separation of powers."... because actually the Seperation of Powers states: "the powers of one branch can be challenged by another branch."

But then Danas lack of education is only exceeded by her cuteness (Gee, I wonder how she got the "job")
Link (http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_cnb.html)

The American constitutional system includes a notion known as the Separation of Powers. In this system, several branches of government are created and power is shared between them. At the same time, the powers of one branch can be challenged by another branch. This is what the system of checks and balances is all about. This Administration has been ruling like a dictatorship for FAR TOO LONG. Time to clip bushes nutsack.

lily
02-15-2008, 02:07 AM
But then Danas lack of education is only exceeded by her cuteness

She's no Tony Snow that's for sure and she can't hold a candle to Scotty.


White House spokeswoman Dana Perino called the move "a partisan, futile act" that would not be enforced by the Justice Department.

I agree with her.....that staged walkout was a patisan and futile act.

President Bush has invoked a blanket executive privilege covering the testimony of all former and current White House officials and documents subpoenaed by Congress on the controversial firings.

How can he claim executive privilege, when he stated he knew nothing about it?

So, let's see where we are after all this time. Meirs and Bolton still refuse to testify and all the emails pertaining to this have been erased. Yep, sounds about right.

PatrickHenry
02-15-2008, 03:20 AM
I think that every presidential election should be accompanied by the election of a Special Prosecutor to scrutinize the Executive Branch for lawbreaking.

The SP should have automatic subpoena powers and Deputies with handcuffs.

This would keep presidents accountable.

Buck Laser
02-15-2008, 03:31 AM
I think that every presidential election should be accompanied by the election of a Special Prosecutor to scrutinize the Executive Branch for lawbreaking.

The SP should have automatic subpoena powers and Deputies with handcuffs.

This would keep presidents accountable.

We need something, but I'm not sure that's it. Right now, the power than Bush and his minions have accrued to the Executive Branch need to be seriously curtailed. Bush IMO is the most arrogant and out-of-control president in the nation's history. Where other presidents received special powers--eg, Roosevelt, Lincoln and Truman, those powers were rescinded at the end of the war.

The next administration, regardless of who leads it, will HAVE to divest itself of the powers that the Bush regime has grabbed.

As to accountability, the State of the Union message is supposed to do that, but I can't recall when a president actually held himself up to scrutiny then, and I think I'm the oldest guy here.

apdst
02-15-2008, 03:32 AM
I think that every presidential election should be accompanied by the election of a Special Prosecutor to scrutinize the Executive Branch for lawbreaking.

There are so many things wrong with that idea, that it's too exhaustive to go into.

lily
02-15-2008, 03:46 AM
The next administration, regardless of who leads it, will HAVE to divest itself of the powers that the Bush regime has grabbed.

Yet I've heard none of the candidates say they will.

PatrickHenry
02-15-2008, 04:48 AM
I think that every presidential election should be accompanied by the election of a Special Prosecutor to scrutinize the Executive Branch for lawbreaking.

There are so many things wrong with that idea, that it's too exhaustive to go into.
Hold on there partner!

The next president is likely to be one you will find fault with.

Then my idea will look pretty good.

Pookie
02-15-2008, 06:53 AM
I think that every presidential election should be accompanied by the election of a Special Prosecutor to scrutinize the Executive Branch for lawbreaking.

There are so many things wrong with that idea, that it's too exhaustive to go into.


Ok then, please give us a little bit of your thoughts, and make them easy enough for us to understand, ok?
Thanks!
Purrs,
Pookie

DANG
02-15-2008, 07:28 AM
An email I just now got from Congressman Wexler:
Dear Daniel,
Today, thanks in great part to your advocacy and persistence, the House of Representatives took a major, tangible step towards holding the Bush Administration accountable.

In a vote on the House floor, we acted to enforce the law and our Constitution, and hold former White House Counsel Harriet Miers and White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten in Contempt of Congress. (Please click here to watch my speech on the House Floor calling for contempt (http://images.myngp.com/LinkTracker.aspx?crypt=IVi0ax2%2b6UDLpC3olJXC42K2H tSUxON1SJEkd2qhNXS%2bpE61pELtv4sFrHShhthQZSX78k3kL IepnJnxoQpWupwPBUWf8614SRtj%2fMkhcxeklBH5nHOpguvMI Icb4RCFottcykNYl6iSfcC037D%2fit2KUMh5KPeq))

Bolten and Miers have ignored congressional subpoenas for nine months and thumbed their noses at Congress and the American people.

Executive privilege has never permitted officials to avoid appearing altogether when subpoenaed. This behavior is unprecedented and outrageous.

Now, these two renegade officials must face up to their blatant disregard of the law and constitution.

Our message of accountability for Bush/Cheney is finally resonating on Capitol Hill.

Judiciary Chairman John Conyers fought hard to bring this to a vote, and Speaker Nancy Pelosi herself took the floor to support contempt.

While Democrats may not all agree on how to press this Administration, one thing is clear:
Today, Congress has asserted its rights under the Constitution.

We must not back down.

We must never cede the rights of the Congress to the Executive.

I am pleased to inform you that today's legislation allows Congress to bypass the Attorney General (who has stated to me this week that he would not enforce contempt) and immediately take action in the courts. (Click here to see me confront the Attorney General on contempt last week (http://images.myngp.com/LinkTracker.aspx?crypt=IVi0ax2%2b6UDLpC3olJXC42K2H tSUxON1SJEkd2qhNXS%2bpE61pELtv4sFrHShhthQZSX78k3kL IepnJnxoQpWupwPBUWf8614OyPC1G1%2bQgLXXH2CZI%2brdhL PytSSLU68p9MFd6myeRQ%2bucNsv%2bhaNzsDFMfMIAg3).)

Today, Congress finally defended the Constitution and our rights as an equal branch of government.

Yours truly,

Congressman Robert Wexler