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underdawg
02-12-2008, 01:39 AM
I have no idea if this cartoon has any truth to it or not, but I found it to be very bizzarre and seems to be quite similar to Scientology and their belief in space aliens. It made me laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo&feature=related

PostmodernProphet
02-12-2008, 01:47 AM
I have no idea if this cartoon has any truth to it or not, but I found it to be very bizzarre and seems to be quite similar to Scientology and their belief in space aliens. It made me laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy0d1HbItOo&feature=related


the first twenty seconds or so was accurate.....

Buck Laser
02-12-2008, 03:48 AM
I didn't get any audio from the youtube link, but it's easy to infer that Mormons believe in some kind of extra-terrestrial origin of their faith. I don't know what to make of it.

There is a film, however, September Dawn, that deals with another aspect of Mormon history that hits a bit closer home. In 1854, a group of Mormons, dressed as Indians, massacred a party of California bound settlers who'd stopped in Utah to rest for a couple of weeks before moving on. The group was called the "Fancher Party," after its leader, one Captain Fancher. All the adults in the party were slaughtered, along with all the children old enough to remember. About seven infants were taken to live with Mormon families. The LDS church has always denied this massacre, but the historical record is there, and it's preserved in several family histories. One of my wife's distant uncles was among those murdered there.

Mia
02-12-2008, 06:22 AM
And people wonder why I say the beliefs of this religion have little in common with all others who call themselves Christians,,,,,,,,,

PostmodernProphet
02-12-2008, 12:35 PM
And people wonder why I say the beliefs of this religion have little in common with all others who call themselves Christians,,,,,,,,,


except that the modern Mormon church isn't much different from a United Church of Christ, or a Methodist or a Central Wesleyan church......

David Hume
02-12-2008, 02:59 PM
I didn't get any audio from the youtube link, but it's easy to infer that Mormons believe in some kind of extra-terrestrial origin of their faith. I don't know what to make of it.

There is a film, however, September Dawn, that deals with another aspect of Mormon history that hits a bit closer home. In 1854, a group of Mormons, dressed as Indians, massacred a party of California bound settlers who'd stopped in Utah to rest for a couple of weeks before moving on. The group was called the "Fancher Party," after its leader, one Captain Fancher. All the adults in the party were slaughtered, along with all the children old enough to remember. About seven infants were taken to live with Mormon families. The LDS church has always denied this massacre, but the historical record is there, and it's preserved in several family histories. One of my wife's distant uncles was among those murdered there.



I haven't seen the movie you referenced, though I know about it. But I did see the program about the massacre on the History Channel, and I've read a book called "Blood of the Prophets: Brigham Young & the Massacre at Mountain Meadows" by Will Bagley. I understand that he was a Mormon and had access to the church's archives when he was doing his research. I've also heard that the church has hired a cadre of historians to refute his book. Most importantly, the church does seem to acknowledge this incident today, but understandably tries to downplay it.

Buck Laser
02-12-2008, 03:57 PM
And people wonder why I say the beliefs of this religion have little in common with all others who call themselves Christians,,,,,,,,,


except that the modern Mormon church isn't much different from a United Church of Christ, or a Methodist or a Central Wesleyan church......

Ah, but it is radically different at its doctrinal base. I'd agree that the behavior of Mormons isn't much different, but they have a constant mission to convert other Christians to their belief system, which isn't at all common among Xn denominations.

underdawg
02-12-2008, 10:40 PM
I didn't get any audio from the youtube link, but it's easy to infer that Mormons believe in some kind of extra-terrestrial origin of their faith. I don't know what to make of it.

There is a film, however, September Dawn, that deals with another aspect of Mormon history that hits a bit closer home. In 1854, a group of Mormons, dressed as Indians, massacred a party of California bound settlers who'd stopped in Utah to rest for a couple of weeks before moving on. The group was called the "Fancher Party," after its leader, one Captain Fancher. All the adults in the party were slaughtered, along with all the children old enough to remember. About seven infants were taken to live with Mormon families. The LDS church has always denied this massacre, but the historical record is there, and it's preserved in several family histories. One of my wife's distant uncles was among those murdered there.



I haven't seen the movie you referenced, though I know about it. But I did see the program about the massacre on the History Channel, and I've read a book called "Blood of the Prophets: Brigham Young & the Massacre at Mountain Meadows" by Will Bagley. I understand that he was a Mormon and had access to the church's archives when he was doing his research. I've also heard that the church has hired a cadre of historians to refute his book. Most importantly, the church does seem to acknowledge this incident today, but understandably tries to downplay it.


Wow, interesting. So if a cartoon is made about the Mormon church, it is called an incident? I would think that any religion should not be worried what other people think. Any religion that claims to be true should not have to worry about any doubt that is presented. Personally I have my doubts about the truth in any religion especially when the religious text speaks of magical acts and gods that intervene in human affairs. That pretty much covers most religions. Just to be fair, I found one for Jevovah's Witnessess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-3mus81YCg&feature=related

David Hume
02-13-2008, 03:38 AM
I like this one about door-to-door atheists trying to convert Mormons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV-a1vmZ6y8

There's also this bit about magic Mormon underwear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsXzHLiHTOU&NR=1

underdawg
02-13-2008, 05:20 AM
That was so funny. Love the door to door atheists. On the second one they were talking to that weird religious nut Bob Larson that likes to exorcize demons from people. He is a hoot.

PostmodernProphet
02-13-2008, 11:40 AM
but they have a constant mission to convert other Christians to their belief system, which isn't at all common among Xn denominations.

????....first I have heard of any effort directed at other Christians......the Mormon church that was built here in town a few years ago tries to get people to join them, just like the other Christian churches do......

Jonah
02-21-2008, 06:37 PM
The bit about self-deification, or believers themselves ascending to become gods (becoming "perfected," they call it) is an accurate tenant of the Mormon church.

A MAJOR difference between mainstream Christianity and Mormonism is that Christians serve their God, and exist to do so, forever. There is no chance for a Christian to become a god. Mormons on the other hand, look toward the day when they will be their own highest power.

This is a huge dividing line in faiths the world over. Persons deify themselves or meet their God(s) on an equal plane or they submit, yield, and serve their higher power(s).

Easy90
02-22-2008, 01:55 PM
Does anyone know why the Mormons don't like Coke (the soft drink) but will drink other colas? I have known some Mormons who would drink Dr. Pepper or Pepsi, but not Coke. It seemed to be a religious thing rather than just a personal preference.

Elrathin
02-22-2008, 03:36 PM
Does anyone know why the Mormons don't like Coke (the soft drink) but will drink other colas? I have known some Mormons who would drink Dr. Pepper or Pepsi, but not Coke. It seemed to be a religious thing rather than just a personal preference.


Really? Just Coke? I know some religions don't drink regular soda or other drinks due to caffeine and such, but didn't know some were just against Coke.

Easy90
02-22-2008, 06:55 PM
I have only a small sample of experiences with that perceived phenomenon, and it might not be the case at all. I was just asking to see if anyone knew if it was so, and if so...why?