Israel missile blasts Palestinian School

[December]

Israeli forces have killed at least five armed members of the Palestinian movement Hamas, as well as another gunman and a teacher, in raids in Gaza.
Witnesses said Israeli troops backed by tanks and aircraft launched an incursion near Jabaliya sparking clashes with gunmen.

The teacher, 38, was killed when a surface-to-surface missile hit a school in Beit Hanoun in a separate raid.

Three pupils, all aged 16, were also wounded when the Israeli missile hit the school, hospital and education ministry officials said.

"What was the fault of a teacher, an emissary on a sacred mission?" the ministry said in a statement...

READ MORE - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7232108.stm


Will USA condemn the actions of Israel?

[Trish]

I'd say the fault of the teacher and the 16 year old students was the same fault as that of a 73 year old Israeli woman, a 12 year old Israeli girl and her 2 year old sister.

"Associated Press Television News footage showed the school to be a series of huts in a rural area. A rocket-launching device was spotted between some olive trees, indicating militants had used the school for cover to launch attacks.

The surge in violence began Monday with a Hamas suicide bombing in southern Israel and heated up with Israeli air and ground attacks on Gaza and militant rocket barrages. A 73-year-old Israeli woman was killed in the suicide bombing, and 17 Palestinians, all but one of them militants, have died in the Israeli attacks."
http://www.bakersfield.com/893/story/356421.html

"Hamas militants fired a rocket into an Israeli border village, wounding two young sisters as they played outside their home."
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jD4YSkDPlclqd9dHvg2f0Ij18zEgD8ULA6GO0

The death of the teacher and the wounded teenagers are traigc, but no more tragic than the death of the 73 year old woman and the wounding of the two young girls. Or don't you find the deaths of innocent Israelis as horrific as that of Palestinians? If Hamas is going to keep using civilians and civilian buildings as fronts for their bombings and continue to use suicide bombers then more civilians on both sides are going to die. It's deplorable, but it's inevitable as long as Hamas continues its attacks. If they don't want Palestinian citizens to be wounded or killed, they are going to have to stop killing themselves.

[AlanC]

Will USA condemn the actions of Israel?



Will you condemn the actions of Hamas in killing innocent civilians and in using schools to place rocket launchers?

[December]

Will you condemn the actions of Hamas in killing innocent civilians and in using schools to place rocket launchers?


Why do you answer with a question, AlanC? Are you trying to change the subject?[hr]
I'd say the fault of the teacher and the 16 year old students was the same fault as that of a 73 year old Israeli woman, a 12 year old Israeli girl and her 2 year old sister.

Of course, it's teacher's fault. In fact, that school should even be there.

I mean....

This is how the whole civilized world works - you just fire missiles at people who are fighting for their land which was stolen from them by Israel.
Bush says it's fun....

http://freepalestine.com

http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2003/01/free_palestine_1.jpgmid.jpg

[AlanC]

You asked a question, I asked a question. You answer mine and I will answer yours. Otherwise this is just another attempt at a propoganda post.

[just a grunt]

Israeli forces have killed at least five armed members of the Palestinian movement Hamas, as well as another gunman and a teacher, in raids in Gaza.
Witnesses said Israeli troops backed by tanks and aircraft launched an incursion near Jabaliya sparking clashes with gunmen.

The teacher, 38, was killed when a surface-to-surface missile hit a school in Beit Hanoun in a separate raid.

Three pupils, all aged 16, were also wounded when the Israeli missile hit the school, hospital and education ministry officials said.

"What was the fault of a teacher, an emissary on a sacred mission?" the ministry said in a statement...

READ MORE - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7232108.stm


Will USA condemn the actions of Israel?


Nope
:shame:

[Trish]

Will you condemn the actions of Hamas in killing innocent civilians and in using schools to place rocket launchers?


Why do you answer with a question, AlanC? Are you trying to change the subject?[hr]
I'd say the fault of the teacher and the 16 year old students was the same fault as that of a 73 year old Israeli woman, a 12 year old Israeli girl and her 2 year old sister.

Of course, it's teacher's fault. In fact, that school should even be there.

I mean....

This is how the whole civilized world works - you just fire missiles at people who are fighting for their land which was stolen from them by Israel.
Bush says it's fun....

http://freepalestine.com

http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2003/01/free_palestine_1.jpgmid.jpg



Oh please. If you're going to rant, at least try to comprehend what you're ranting about first. I said that the teacher and the 16-year old students were no more at "fault" than were the 73 year old Israeli woman who was killed or the 2 little Israeli girls. I said that the death of innocent civilians - on BOTH sides of this mess - is equally deplorable. I said that while it was tragic that the teacher was killed and the 16 year old students were injured it was just as tragic that the old woman was killed and the little girls were injured.

Innocent blood is innocent blood and it doesn't make it a damn bit of difference if it is Palestinian innocent blood or Israeli innocent blood. The grief and heartache of the family of that Palestinian teacher is no more or less than that of the elderly Israeli woman. The fear and grief of the families of the injuried Palestinian students is no more or less compelling than the fear and grief of those two little injured Israeli girls.

But if you want to place blame only for the Palestinian deaths in this instance, place the blame on the people who put that rocket launcher at the school. Place the blame on the people that deliberately put their own citizens and children as a shield for their activities.

[preservanation]

The Palestinians has a long history of using women and children as human shields.
They routinly place their rockets in Mosques and schools.
They know how to play on the sympathies of pudding heads and sycophants in the world press and other parts of the Muslim world with this horrible tactic.
Unfortunately it works, even when it is obvious...so they keep doing it.
It's akin to pushing your child out is traffic on his big wheel, so you can sue the ass off of the driver and garnish sympathy and fruitcakes from you neighbors.

]The fear and grief of the families of the injured Palestinian students is no more or less compelling than the fear and grief of those two little injured Israeli girls. I would hope we all feel this way...I do.

I however grieve for all innocents who are killed or harmed in this sad conflict.
To blame only the Israelis and paint the Palestinians as the de-facto victims in this case is just as biased as those who do the exact opposite.

[jafar00]

But if you want to place blame only for the Palestinian deaths in this instance, place the blame on the people who put that rocket launcher at the school. Place the blame on the people that deliberately put their own citizens and children as a shield for their activities.


The Israelis are the ones trying to defend their actions by saying their was a Palestinian rocket crew at the school and you can't trust their word as they have a long history of lies and deceit.

[Trish]

But if you want to place blame only for the Palestinian deaths in this instance, place the blame on the people who put that rocket launcher at the school. Place the blame on the people that deliberately put their own citizens and children as a shield for their activities.


The Israelis are the ones trying to defend their actions by saying their was a Palestinian rocket crew at the school and you can't trust their word as they have a long history of lies and deceit.


"Associated Press Television News footage showed the school to be a series of huts in a rural area. A rocket-launching device was spotted between some olive trees, indicating militants had used the school for cover to launch attacks."
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/missile-hits-school-hamas-may-have-used/n20080207123609990008


I noticed you didn't mention the old Israeli woman killed or the two little Israeli girls that were injured by Hamas bombs. What and who justifies this?

[jafar00]

So where is this footage Trish? Perhaps they mistook Monkey Bars, Swings and 2 seesaws for rocket launching devices?

[Trish]

So where is this footage Trish? Perhaps they mistook Monkey Bars, Swings and 2 seesaws for rocket launching devices?


You'll have to ask the AP. Somehow I doubt they'd have reporters and photographers in an area where bombings were commonplace if they didn't know the difference in playground equipment and rocket launching devices.

I noticed that you still didn't answer about the elderly Israeli woman or the two Israeli children.

[jafar00]

I noticed that you still didn't answer about the elderly Israeli woman or the two Israeli children.


What about them? This thread is about Israelis destroying yet more civilian infrastructure and killing yet more innocent people.

[Go Fish]

Olmert said 2 days ago that he would retaliate for the palestinian (I don't capitalize it because it's not a nationality, BTW) rocket attacks of last week. Why is anyone surprised that terrorist are being dealt with? That 8 year-old Israeli boy killed in the rocket attacks didn't have any say in the matter.[hr]

I noticed that you still didn't answer about the elderly Israeli woman or the two Israeli children.


What about them? This thread is about Israelis destroying yet more civilian infrastructure and killing yet more innocent people.


When you can show me evidence of Israeli troops acting like the cowardly jihadists and firing rockets from hospitals and schools and temples, let me know. You need to talk to your own people WRT hiding behind schoolchildren. For Christ's sake, Muslims are strapping bombs to retarded women and little kids! Your whining has no merit, Jafar.

[dlap]

Very harsh expressions used by both sides in this post. It would be nice to cool down and realise a few things:

1. The palestinians are not a nation of terrorists. In fact, there is no such nation of bloodthirsty murderers; the same goes for the israelis.

2. Both sides will fight with their strengths: the israelis have one of the most capable armies in the world and they can inflict minimum collateral damage in their attacks; and they do, cause they understand better than anyone the PR damage taken by any civilian casualties.
On the other hand the palestinians can't even form an army (not that it would help), so they fight in any way they can. I can't blame them for their tactics, because I don't see Israel giving them any motivation not to attack civilians, i.e. Israel seems to retaliate regardless of the target in palestinian attacks (soldiers/civilians).

3. The palestinian sympathisers should remember that appart from Israel they have another enemy: their leaders, who have failed to work towards establishing their people's independence because they were too busy making a fortune for themselves (e.g. Arafat); The same goes for the rest of the nearby arab countries who pretend to be advacates of the pure palestinian cause but in fact could't care less about the fate of these people, as their primary goal is the manifestation of the destruction of Israel.

4. Israeli sympathisers talk about the "autonomy" of the palestinians and blame them for their inability to administer themselves. Part of it is true (as in(3)), but they forget that in order to be autonomous you need free trade, which for the palestinians is non-existent because of the israeli embargoes. It seems that the palestinians are economically hostages of Israel; up to a point this is understandable (security for Israel) but then one would expect to see Israel contribute in the well being of their palestinian subjects, i.e. build schools, hospitals, etc; instead, Israel was all this time preoccupied with expanding settlements in the palestinian territories.

Anyone can understand that this list could go forever with pros and cons for both sides, and sadly the common denominator would be that both sides refuse to converge towards a solution.
My feeling is that Israel will be forced to (unilaterally?) establish Israeli and palestinian borders in an attempt to maintain its jewish identity. This should be the solution to the problem, but I'm really affraid to imagine what will follow...