View Full Version : Ron Paul out of the Race?
qwerty
02-06-2008, 06:54 PM
Do you think it is over for Ron Paul now that Super Tuesday is over? This is an absolute win for Ron Paul. We all always knew that Ron Paul was not going to get enough delegates to steal the nomination. He just needs enough to bring to the convention, which he has. The plan was to make it to a brokered convention, so that the message would get out to all of the republicans. The delegates are in fact uncommitted and many of them may not even know who Ron Paul is.
By having a brokered convention, they will all hear the message, no matter how the media has tried to black him out. The media will have no choice but to show the good doctor and his message as the whole thing will be televised. It will be run by the GOP, not the biased main stream media. This is what we need. Everyone will be watching if there is a brokered convention, Republican and Democrat. Whether the good doctor gets elected or not, the seed of freedom will be planted.
People will start to awaken from their apathy and question the things going on around them. It happened to me, and all it took was hearing Ron Paul speak 1 time. I used to watch Fox News almost exclusively when I was in the Army, and even after I had gotten out. I didn't even notice that the Neocons were hijacking the Republican Party. After hearing Ron Paul speak in length, and agreeing with so much of what he said, I did some more research on him and the Libertarian Party. I realized that I am not only a conservative Republican, I am also a Libertarian. Ronald Reagan once said, "If you analyze it, I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism". This speaks volumes to all those who think that Mitt Romney is a conservative and it is laughable to think that McCain is. Having said that, I think that no matter which way you lean politically, we all have a little libertarian in us. We are all Americans. This country was founded on the platform Ron Paul is running his campaign on.
We have gotten far away from what our founding fathers intended for us. But know this; the message absolutely does not have to "finish fourth, along with the candidate". Not if We the People keep fighting. Even if Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination, the reason it is about the message is because people die, but the message doesn't have to. It is up to all of us to carry on that message. If you truly believe in the words that Dr Paul speaks about freedom and liberty, then the message can never "finish fourth".
This is called the Ron Paul Revolution. Even if Ron Paul isn't elected, and the status quo continues, then it is still a revolution. I am not saying that people need to arm themselves, but that We the People must rise up and be heard. Let the powers that be know that we will not give up our freedoms anymore. We need to be organized, and that is what this campaign has already started. The meet-ups. The forums. The blogs. The websites. It is already there. This is the framework for our revolution. There are many things we can do to continue the fight.
Don't Give Up!
Stand proudly behind the Freedom Fighter Dr. Ron Paul.
http://www.nolanchart.com/article2501.html
exigent
02-06-2008, 07:13 PM
what?
"This is an absolute win for Ron Paul. "
"This is called the Ron Paul Revolution. Even if Ron Paul isn't elected, and the status quo continues, then it is still a revolution." ...no it's not.
why the hell did I come in this thread?
cronic
02-06-2008, 07:22 PM
why the hell did I come in this thread?
lol.. ya.. me to.. im not going there.. oops.. to late..
Bostonian
02-06-2008, 07:28 PM
This is an absolute win for Ron Paul.
:lmao:
You Ron Paul supporters/fanatics really need to just admit defeat and realize that he's NOT GOING TO WIN THE NOMINATION OR PRESIDENCY. This is really just getting annoying and many Ron Paul supporters are just turning me off from him.
qwerty
02-06-2008, 07:42 PM
Please, laugh as loud as you want, but there are a young motivated generation coming to invade your politics with Ron Paul-platform.
There are huge amount of Ron Paul-people getting into politics!
:thumbsup:
Deadshot
02-06-2008, 07:43 PM
Ron Paul cannot win, ergo his supporters must be...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX0zfv8Ov5I
Bostonian
02-06-2008, 07:47 PM
Please, laugh as loud as you want, but there are a young motivated generation coming to invade your politics with Ron Paul-platform.
There are huge amount of Ron Paul-people getting into politics!
:thumbsup:
Yeah, I was blown away by the absolutely overwhelming amount of people going out to vote for Paul.
Oh wait, he came in last in nearly every state.
Tharagor
02-06-2008, 07:50 PM
The delegates are in fact uncommitted and many of them may not even know who Ron Paul is.
Should anyone who doesn't know who Ron Paul is be a delegate?
Beyond that, it is hardly likely that Ron Paul has any hope of bringing large-scale change to the political scene. His platform is clearly more Libertarian than Republican. He has as much of a chance to bring about change as the Libertarian party.
exigent
02-06-2008, 08:09 PM
Why didnt ALL of the Paul supporters vote for him? The article makes it sound like it was part of his master plan to only get a small percentage NOW, only to sweep up later...what a crock
I at least applaud you for having faith
Drocket
02-06-2008, 08:13 PM
I love the fact that Ron Paul, the hero of truth, democracy and the American way, only has a chance at becoming the Republican candidate by disenfranchising 90%+ of primary voters.
Seriously, you think that if the Republican party completely ignores its voters' wishes like that, the party will even continue to EXIST, let alone have a chance to win in November?
December
02-06-2008, 08:15 PM
Ron Paul cannot win, ergo his supporters must be...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX0zfv8Ov5I
This stupid video is still here, but my Ron Paul video was removed.
Interesting....
Good jobb, admins. Keep it up....
Truth_and_Power
02-06-2008, 08:18 PM
So many young people I talk to are in support of Ron Paul. Rarely does a person over 40 that I talk to know who Ron Paul is. Hopefully this can be a seed planted for the next generation to water.
Mark L Hamburger
02-08-2008, 12:19 AM
Ron Paul cannot win, ergo his supporters must be...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX0zfv8Ov5I
It would be nice if you'd stop spamming the exact same post. I've seen this in at least 4 of the last threads I've read. Isn't there a rule against that?
1. No spamming. We consider spam repeatedly posting irrelevant short posts.
hmmm... looks like it.
Alexander Hamilton
02-08-2008, 05:37 AM
Ron Paul is my favorite candidate, but honestly he has no chance. McCain is going to seal the deal before the convention. The best thing Ron Paul supporters can do is to turn this into something great on the local levels. If the meetup groups turn into something to focus on specific issues rather than merely electing a presidential candidate Ron Paul supporters could make a big difference and this could continue to grow over the years.
Also....just wanted to say - I haven't even gotten a chance to vote yet - my primary is on March 4th. It's pretty depressing actually that I have 2 choices that would actually matter at all. I guess my vote is going to Obama at this point.
Keith Hamburger
02-08-2008, 08:08 PM
Ron Paul is my favorite candidate, but honestly he has no chance. McCain is going to seal the deal before the convention. The best thing Ron Paul supporters can do is to turn this into something great on the local levels. If the meetup groups turn into something to focus on specific issues rather than merely electing a presidential candidate Ron Paul supporters could make a big difference and this could continue to grow over the years.
Also....just wanted to say - I haven't even gotten a chance to vote yet - my primary is on March 4th. It's pretty depressing actually that I have 2 choices that would actually matter at all. I guess my vote is going to Obama at this point.
Don't count Paul out, yet. I know there are a lot of Paul opponents that are wishing he would just go away, and they are doing everything they can to discourage his supporters, but it won't be over until the convention.
Many states that the media are reporting as having gone to one or the other candidates actually have had non-binding caucuses. The delegates selected in those caucuses can vote for whatever candidate they choose at their state caucus. Even in a binding caucus, if a state has a convention, all of the state delegates that were committed to Romney are now free to vote for someone else. Many of them absolutely won't vote for McCain.
There are a large number of national delegates that are now free agents. If they were committed to Romney (or the one that was for Guilliani) can vote for whoever they choose. Again, many of these delegates will not vote for McCain. If Huckabee runs out of money, which looks very likely at this point, this could be a two way race going into the national convention with lots of loose delegates.
Keith
preservanation
02-08-2008, 08:16 PM
Maybe RP supporters ain't so crazy.
Maybe they are.
Maybe a message being sent of the dissatisfaction with the Rep party is in order.
Maybe it won't matter anyway.
Maybe the conservatives will forsake the Republican party.
Maybe we'll wander in the wilderness for the next forty years.
Maybe not.
Alexander Hamilton
02-09-2008, 07:27 AM
Ron Paul is my favorite candidate, but honestly he has no chance. McCain is going to seal the deal before the convention. The best thing Ron Paul supporters can do is to turn this into something great on the local levels. If the meetup groups turn into something to focus on specific issues rather than merely electing a presidential candidate Ron Paul supporters could make a big difference and this could continue to grow over the years.
Also....just wanted to say - I haven't even gotten a chance to vote yet - my primary is on March 4th. It's pretty depressing actually that I have 2 choices that would actually matter at all. I guess my vote is going to Obama at this point.
Don't count Paul out, yet. I know there are a lot of Paul opponents that are wishing he would just go away, and they are doing everything they can to discourage his supporters, but it won't be over until the convention.
Many states that the media are reporting as having gone to one or the other candidates actually have had non-binding caucuses. The delegates selected in those caucuses can vote for whatever candidate they choose at their state caucus. Even in a binding caucus, if a state has a convention, all of the state delegates that were committed to Romney are now free to vote for someone else. Many of them absolutely won't vote for McCain.
There are a large number of national delegates that are now free agents. If they were committed to Romney (or the one that was for Guilliani) can vote for whoever they choose. Again, many of these delegates will not vote for McCain. If Huckabee runs out of money, which looks very likely at this point, this could be a two way race going into the national convention with lots of loose delegates.
Keith
I highly doubt that this will last until the convention. McCain needs a little over 400 delegates, at least 200 of which (likely more) will be earned before I vote. If Huckabee and/or Ron Paul show signs of life as in, when March 4th rolls around it's mathematically unlikely that McCain will have enough delegates to secure the nomination by the convention, then I will vote for Ron Paul. Until then, Barack Obama has my vote.
PatrickHenry
02-09-2008, 08:03 AM
...Ron Paul...only has a chance at becoming the Republican candidate by disenfranchising 90%+ of primary voters.
...
How does the math work, Drocket?
Are you saying that because Dr. Paul has received oly 10% or less in many of the state races so far, that somehow means that his support is unchanged as other candidates drop out?
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