Can we really trust Obama??

[dirtywelder]

I read all the things on the net about Obama being a rad. muslim and refusing to say the pledge or wearing a flag pin, etc. and I hope its all BS. but, what if it isnt? what if only half of it is? how about just one?
what about his middle name? Hussien... where in the HE - double chop sticks does that come from !?!?

:dizzy:

[AlanC]

Obama is not a radical muslim.
Whether or not his Christian roots are radical probably depends on your definition.
Obama has never refused to say the pledge of alligence and has in fact, many times led the Senate in reciting it prior to a session.
He doesn't wear a flag pin, but so what? That is his choice, its not a requirement.
His middle name is no more relevant than his shoe size, whatever that is.

None of these rumors and innuendo amount to a hill of beans. If you don't like him and don't want to vote for him, make it on the issues he supports or opposes, not a bunch of idiotic rumors on the internet.

And if your wondering, no I don't support him.

[PatrickHenry]

Well, he's Hawaii-born...that's a plus.

Trustworthiness in Prsidents is always problematical for me.

I have to go back pretty far to find one with much integrity.

No... waaay past Reagan.

Obama...I will trust him to be a social Democrat. Still better than a corporate Democrat like Mrs Clinton.

[Labrocca]

Most of the things I have read about Obama that you state are rumors.

There isn't a lot of truth to his Muslim background...yeah is there a connection to Muslims in his life..absolutely. Do you really think he is an agent of Islam just waiting to take over America? I don't.

Hussein..It's a popular name in the middle east.

Something like IMDB pulls up nearly 200 people with first or last name of Hussein.

Imagine in the middle east someone has the middle name of George and he is running for office...at one point he went to a school here in America around the age of 10. Do you think the people should execute him for his ties to GWB? Be real please.

[ViolaLee]

That email going around is all lies about Obama. He's a Christian, not a Muslim. He doesn't refuse to say the pledge, the picture going around is of him standing during the national anthem with his hands by his side. Most people don't put their hand on their heart to sing the national anthem, only for the pledge of allegiance. The email smear campaign lies when it says it was a picture of the pledge.

Hussien means beautiful child in Arabic. His father was from Africa, he was an atheist. His mother is from Kansas with Irish ancestry.

Don't believe the right wing smear campaigns. They are not to be trusted.

[Trish]

Obama is not a radical muslim.
Whether or not his Christian roots are radical probably depends on your definition.
Obama has never refused to say the pledge of alligence and has in fact, many times led the Senate in reciting it prior to a session.
He doesn't wear a flag pin, but so what? That is his choice, its not a requirement.
His middle name is no more relevant than his shoe size, whatever that is.

None of these rumors and innuendo amount to a hill of beans. If you don't like him and don't want to vote for him, make it on the issues he supports or opposes, not a bunch of idiotic rumors on the internet.

And if your wondering, no I don't support him.


I agree completely. If you're going to support or reject a candidate do so on the issues, not on rumors and innuendo. All the junk about Obama's Muslim connection, his name, etc. is just that junk used to cloud the issues of what he does or does not stand for. THAT's what is important - what a candidate does and does not stand for.

As to whether or not Obama can be trusted, my only concern is wondering if we can trust him to say what he actually means and not just be blowing smoke up our skirts. Can he be trusted to keep his word or does he make expedient promises which he will then fail to deliver? (some of his most ardent supporters appear to be afflicted with this malady)

[preservanation]

The Hussein thing cracks me up, like his parents knew in advance that Saddam was going to be the leader of Iraq and a future enemy of the US.

[dirtywelder]

Imagine in the middle east someone has the middle name of George and he is running for office...at one point he went to a school here in America around the age of 10. Do you think the people should execute him for his ties to GWB? Be real please.



this isnt a very good example. In the middlle east, I would'nt put it past them to execute someone for that

[Lyss]

Ok, I really don't think the question is , should anyone execute him, i think it's do we TRUST him to run our country. Heres another question do we really trust our current president, and how many of our past pres? What i'm saying is, giving the state of our age in the world, giving that most people in america that ARE christian would want to remain allies with Isreal and giving that Barrak DOES infact have family members right now living in these parts of the world that are definetly NOT allies with Isreal (to say the very least) , take away all the rumors it just seems REALLY dumb for Americans to even be thinking of him being president at this time. I don't feel at all its a race issue.... (or course it shouldnt be if it is). I do really question the administration and they way they "cover" things up. Whos to say his goold 'ol cousin doesn't give him a quick call 1 day and hitch a ride to our country, for who knows what? I just sayin if play with a rattlesnake you will get bitten.

[micfranklin]

I read all the things on the net about Obama being a rad. muslim and refusing to say the pledge or wearing a flag pin, etc. and I hope its all BS. but, what if it isnt? what if only half of it is? how about just one?
what about his middle name? Hussien... where in the HE - double chop sticks does that come from !?!?

:dizzy:


Reading bullshit propaganda off the net is detrimental to the mind.

[Deadshot]

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the GOP members here who are calling the Obama smear campaign BULLSHITE!

Thanx to AlanC, Lab and Preserv. I know he's not your candidate, but I appreciate you showin your honesty on this subject.

[Lyss]

smear campaign/SHmear Champaign (who cares its Politics get used to it.

the question was
" Heres another question do we really trust our current president, and how many of our past pres?"

/agree the internet is full of rumors that is why it is wise for one to actually do a little of your own real investigating . Anyone heard of "Brzezinski" look up this guy. Hes REAL honest and straight forward ! Maybe we oughta elect HIM! Next! *smile*

[brum]

the question was
" Heres another question do we really trust our current president, and how many of our past pres?"



That was not the question, the question was some crap about what if Obama is a radical muslim.

That would probably bring up a good debate though maybe start another thread on that. Well there could be a good debate on it if poeple dont start bickering just because x president was from x party they support.

As for Obama being some radical that is an agent for terrorists or something like that, come on do you really believe that crap. Do you think that he would be able to get access to the things that he has access to without haveing thorough investigations done by the FBI and CIA.

Have you heard about U.S. citizens being in other countries and people there telling them " tell your president bush ( blah blah blah here)" like everyone in America can just call up the president and talk to him. That's nearly the same thing if you are saying that because Obama went to school somewhere and has some family in x place that he must have the same views or he must be a terrorist.

[Lyss]

No i beg to differ the name of this Post itself is NOT if Obama is a radical muslim ...but Can we really trust Obama? and my question "Heres another question do we really trust our current president, and how many of our past pres?" Simply is an extention of the current question at hand.
There is NOTHING wrong with one asking questions , To bad it offends "some" ppl.

[preservanation]

Trust but verify?[hr]IMO, if people think that Obama is some scruffy barbarian mole, they're going to have to come up with something more substantive than this.

[brum]

Lyss what I'm saying is this thread was about Obama and the question you posed was about Bush and other past presidents. I'd like to see that one in a different thread in the general areas and I'd like to see what people say about it. Not everyone on DF reads the Obama section here.

I'm not saying it was a bad question and I'm not offended by it in any way ( not sure where you got that at).

[brien]

Trust...trust him how? To be the Social Democrat, as PH so correctly points out, he pledges to be? Absolutely.

To get the US out of Iraq? No way.

He can't possibly do what his platform claims because as soon as he begins to pull the troops out of Iraq, he pledges to attack AL Qaeda from "elsewhere in the region" wherever they have bases. He pledges billions in aid to Iraq. He pledges to protect the American Embassy, and any other American installation in Iraq against AL Qaeda? The Americans have a military base located in Iraq so how can anyone think it won't be attacked as Obama is disengaging the troops? So just how does anyone, with even half a brain, believe Obama will disengage from Iraq?