Jubilee

By: underdawg
September 23rd, 2014
9:51 pm

While researching something for a book I was writing, I stumbled upon a concept god had for the people of Israel. Not only did he tell his people to keep the sabbath day holy, but God commanded his people to rest the land every seven years. A sound environmental message to keep the land productive. And after seven times seven years, was to be the year of Jubilee. A time when not only the land to be given a rest, but a time when slaves were to be set free and all debts were to be wiped clean. A time when the poor burdened by debt could start over. This was discontinued once the temple had been destroyed.

During the time of Jesus when Israel was occupied by the Romans and wealthy merchants had the people bound by debt.

Jesus seems to be talking more than just forgiving people, he also talked about forgiving the poor of their debts. In the Lord's prayer it takes about the forgiveness of debts, not just the forgiving of sins. Jesus seemed to be talking about reinstating the jubilee.

If anyone needs a Jubilee, we as a nation needs a jubilee.


http://sojo.net/blogs/2011/07/06/wha...ve-our-debtors

http://books.google.com/books?id=jJS...ubilee&f=false

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_(biblical)

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21 comments on "Jubilee"

  • rcclydeinside
    September 24, 2014 at 8:15 am

    Originally Posted by underdawg
    While researching something for a book I was writing, I stumbled upon a concept god had for the people of Israel. Not only did he tell his people to keep the sabbath day holy, but God commanded his people to rest the land every seven years. A sound environmental message to keep the land productive. And after seven times seven years, was to be the year of Jubilee. A time when not only the land to be given a rest, but a time when slaves were to be set free and all debts were to be wiped clean. A time when the poor burdened by debt could start over. This was discontinued once the temple had been destroyed.

    During the time of Jesus when Israel was occupied by the Romans and wealthy merchants had the people bound by debt.

    Jesus seems to be talking more than just forgiving people, he also talked about forgiving the poor of their debts. In the Lord's prayer it takes about the forgiveness of debts, not just the forgiving of sins. Jesus seemed to be talking about reinstating the jubilee.

    If anyone needs a Jubilee, we as a nation needs a jubilee.


    http://sojo.net/blogs/2011/07/06/wha...ve-our-debtors

    http://books.google.com/books?id=jJS...ubilee&f=false

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_(biblical)
    The Temple wasn't destroyed, just relocated to Wall Street.
    And as for a Jubilee, just you try it and we'll all be able to find out
    where you live by following the tanks and SWAT teams to your front door.

  • lily
    September 24, 2014 at 8:57 am

    Not sure if this is the direction you wanted the debate to go in, so first I'll mention that resting the earth is something that we as a nation had to learn, the hardest lesson would be the Great Dust Bowl. Also some scientists believe the body changes over 7 years.

    With that said, and here I'm not sure if I'm going in the direction you intended, there are a number of scholers dedicated to the pattern of numbers in the Bible and what they represent.

    I may be the only one that considers this fascinating and a totally different way to look at the Bible. Not so much as a burn in hell type of book, but another interpretation.

    Seven is the number of completeness and perfection both physical and spiritual.

  • underdawg
    September 24, 2014 at 10:18 am

    I wasn't planning to go anywhere with it other than to say that it appears that Jesus was more a political and radical person in his day because during his sermon on the mount he was talking about bringing back jubilee to the poor and asking that their debts be forgiven. The rich Jews at the time were upset over it as were the Romans. In many ways they were like the Occupy movement.

    i had also read that the wording had been changed in the Lord's Prayer from Debt to Trespass. And that the original Lord's Prayer was referring to "Jubilee." They realized back then that a person can become a slave to debt and that it could easily become something that could not easily be paid back. God wanted his people to be happy and enjoy life, so it is said that since God was able to forgive his people from sinning, he commanded that Jubilee be a gift to the people and the land to wipe the slate clean every fifty years.

    I just look at the economy that we have today where the wealthy have sabotaged the capitalistic system to where the rich make such a disproportionate amount compared to the majority of people who live here. And Christians tend to vote to against their better interests by voting for more tax breaks for the rich. The politics of then and now are not so different.

  • 80zephyr
    September 24, 2014 at 10:21 am

    Well, if debts are to be forgiven, please let me know in advance so I can run up a huge debt and leave someone holding the bag.

    Mark

  • Lady Marva
    September 24, 2014 at 10:22 am

    Israelis still practice that, to a certain extent, if not in actual then in symbolic.

    Funny how the "forgive debt" is the part of the Lord's prayer which stands out to the OP poster most. Course it doesn't entirely mean "money debt that somebody is going to say I don't have to pay back. Oh jubilee".

  • underdawg
    September 24, 2014 at 10:25 am

    Jubliee was a term more widely used during the the lead up to the Civil War because when the slaves were freed, it was to be a Jubilee for them. Growing up I only heard vague references to the term in words like Jubilation. A time to rejoice.

  • Lady Marva
    September 24, 2014 at 10:26 am

    Funny how the most important part of the prayer is ignored:

    Originally Posted by
    Our Father, Which art in Heaven, Hallowed be Thy Name

  • underdawg
    September 24, 2014 at 10:28 am

    Originally Posted by Lady Marva
    Israelis still practice that, to a certain extent, if not in actual then in symbolic.

    Funny how the "forgive debt" is the part of the Lord's prayer which stands out to the OP poster most. Course it doesn't entirely mean "money debt that somebody is going to say I don't have to pay back. Oh jubilee".
    Apparently before the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed, it was a commandment that meant exactly that. All debts were to be forgiven every 50th year all through the nation.

  • Lady Marva
    September 24, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Originally Posted by underdawg
    Apparently before the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed, it was a commandment that meant exactly that. All debts were to be forgiven every 50th year all through the nation.
    Got any reference for that commandment? What book of the Old Testament is it in?

  • djharkavy
    September 24, 2014 at 10:56 am

    Vayikra 25

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