It's just a jobs bill

13 comments on "It's just a jobs bill"

• dgun
  June 24, 2012 at 9:07 pm
  

  By the way, all apologies for the terrible artwork. Schoolhouse rock basically got me through elementary school. In fact I still recite the preamble to the Constitution if anyone should doubt..
• sokpupet
  June 25, 2012 at 12:45 am
  

  
  
  
• Curiosity's Dead Cat
  June 26, 2012 at 6:57 pm
  

  If only Democrats knew what jobs really were, and what jobs grew the economy and which ones take from it.
• dgun
  June 26, 2012 at 8:24 pm
  

  ^ would you like to elaborate?
  
  Doesn't a lot of what Obama is proposing/proposed involve construction and infrastructure related jobs? Those jobs add nothing?
• william the wierd
  June 26, 2012 at 9:15 pm
  
  Originally Posted by dgun
  Yes, it's only a jobs bill and it's sitting there on capitol hill.
  
  The House and Senate have been passing various pieces of legislation marketed as "jobs bills" lately, yet nothing has become of it. It seems that we were finally turning the corner in terms of job creation until the last couple of jobs reports when the numbers did not meet analysts' expectations.
  
  In terms of the Presidential race, Obama can make the claim that things are much better than they were in January 2009 when he took office. Romney will be making the ideological arguments usually made by his party and will try to convince voters that jobs would have rebounded completely by now if not for those meddling liberals.
  
  So who has the edge on this most important issue?
  
  In my opinion, that will depend on what happens over the next few months. If the jobs numbers don't get any worse, Obama has a slight edge. Of course, if they go south, Republicans will win this issue big and likely the White House along with it. And although I'm stating the obvious, a huge jump in jobs will basically guarantee another term for Obama.
  
  This chart is jobs gained/lost since 2001.
  
  
  Obama's administration simply does a crappy job of spinning any and everything. I checked tonight because I wanted to catch the news on Debby. Obama has decent commercials running but given his demographics he couldn't have run them at a worse time, none preceded the weather report on local channels and I didn't see any on the Weather Channel. That is an incompetent way to spend campaign funds. If UE goes up because of reentry into the laborforce he will lose, if UE goes down becaise people stop looking for work he will get nailed to the wall by everybody but NBC. I don't think he can come across as non-scoolding or put his best foot forward.
• rcclydeinside
  June 26, 2012 at 9:46 pm
  

  Just wait until the GOPParty refuses to pass the highway bill,
  putting another 1.9 million out of work and raising unemployment to above 9%.
  I know they're not doing any of this for political gain or advantage,
  but what do you think that will do to Obama's re-election chances?
• Schwarzwald
  June 27, 2012 at 1:23 am
  
  Originally Posted by dgun
  Yes, it's only a jobs bill and it's sitting there on
  
  That chart really resembles a miserable frown that tries to fake a snide smirk when things got a lot worse. Its really a sorry reflection of the state of affairs in the US and how little of a rat's ass Congress cares about anyone but themselves.
• Curiosity's Dead Cat
  June 27, 2012 at 8:09 am
  
  Originally Posted by dgun
  ^ would you like to elaborate?
  
  Doesn't a lot of what Obama is proposing/proposed involve construction and infrastructure related jobs? Those jobs add nothing?
  If they are un-necessary projects that are paid for by more debt, they add nothing. They are like doing shots in a bar. It feels good while you do it, but you pay for it the next day. Or a shopping spree on a credit card. You know, where you get a big credit card and max it out without considering how you will pay for the bill when it comes due.
  
  Borrowing, especially at this time (if you have been paying attention) is a bad deal. We already have more debt than we can pay for and our deficits are growing much faster than the economy.
  
  In short, a real job is paid for by real demand in the private sector, not the dictates of government. When the taxpayers aren't paying for a job, it's a good one.
• Curiosity's Dead Cat
  June 27, 2012 at 8:12 am
  
  Originally Posted by rcclydeinside
  Just wait until the GOPParty refuses to pass the highway bill,
  putting another 1.9 million out of work and raising unemployment to above 9%.
  I know they're not doing any of this for political gain or advantage,
  but what do you think that will do to Obama's re-election chances?
  Does this highway bill utilize tax dollars that are coming in as they are spent, or does it require extensive borrowing? If it's merely more borrowing, then it's best to let it die.
  
  I think the numbers are grossly overstated, btw.
• rcclydeinside
  June 27, 2012 at 8:14 am
  
  Originally Posted by Curiosity's Dead Cat
  Does this highway bill utilize tax dollars that are coming in as they are spent, or does it require extensive borrowing? If it's merely more borrowing, then it's best to let it die.
  
  I think the numbers are grossly overstated, btw.
  It's funny how Republicans become anti borrow and spend
  whenever we have a Democrat in the White House.